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Re: Twitter acquires Revue

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Post by omarhaneef »

paulgb wrote: post #77
AndrewLiptak wrote: post #57

It'll be interesting to see what Substack does in response to this. I can imagine that they'll lose some folks because Twitter's taking a lower rate.

My prediction: bundling. Most of the good content (excluding self-hosted) is now arguably on Substack, but the subscription model is still one-to-one and doesn’t allow them to take advantage of the network effects. There’s a limited number of subscriptions I’m willing to pay for. Bundling economics, if done right, could extract a higher monthly fee from me into the platform. After all, the marginal cost of providing…

You know the joke that tech just rediscovers the pre-tech economy?

Like a rideshare company will pick up groups of passengers from a location and drop them to the same location in the direction you're going - oh, you just discovered buses. That kind of thing?

This is heading towards a you just discovered online magazines/newspapers jokes.

Consider: - bundle the best writers together

- pay them a salary so they feel some comfort

- have an editor who decides

- brand it so people trust the name

etc

Re: Twitter acquires Revue

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Post by thomasahle »

conradfr wrote: post #72
thomasahle wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Deleting and reposting hurts and would eliminate engagement statistics. Maybe there should be a maximum number of characters edited. If I have liked/retweeted a tweet, and its author then completely rewrites it,I would want my "engagement" eliminated.

Also why not make editing available for n minutes? Perfect for typos.

That's probably an even better approach, though famous people may have a lot of engagements during that time.

Maybe just make editing work like deletion/repost: Remove all likes a retweets. Then after n minutes it becomes an unattractive thing to do.

Re: Twitter acquires Revue

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Post by rchaud »

complianceowl wrote: post #69

Use Revue, build a sizeable distribution list, so I can get banned for expressing my thoughts? So I can be treated like a pedophile for saying something unpopular that doesn't align with their radical leftist ideology? No thank you. There's a lot of other subscription services for me to take a risk that big with anyone associated with Twitter.

You seem to be more concerned with 'cancel culture' than the actual viability of your hypothetical 'unpopular opinion' newsletter.

Re: Twitter acquires Revue

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Post by Tenoke »

motoboi wrote: post #71
siruva07 wrote: post #7

Excellent acquisition. Twitter will definitely compete and take marketshare from Substack with lower fees from 20% to 5%. I hope this acquisition is actually a stepping stone for Twitter to become a much better service. Twitter could absolutely become a paid service and move away from ads as its business model. No political ads to worry about. No interference with the product experience. And believe it or not, if I u…

If they charge 5 to 15 reais per month 80% of Brazil’s users will exit Twitter and Facebook for the free competitor the same day. I suppose the same would happen anywhere the exchange rate is unfavorable. A price for FB in Brazil? R$ 1 ($0,2). And the free option would still get a huge market share.

For what is worth, those users also earn them much lees revenue, so the cost can be lower, too.

Re: Twitter acquires Revue

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Post by DavidPeiffer »

RankingMember wrote: post #82
rightbyte wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am a bit cynical about that Spyware-aaS companies like FB would stop spying just becouse you paid them. I mean I bought a Samsung TV for 1000USD and still it tries to show adds and spy. The temptation to increase margins is high no matter what. I am not that up to date with Twitter. Are they in the same class as FB and Google?

> The temptation to increase margins is high no matter what. yep, I remember when cable tv was ad-free (because who would've dreamt people would be ok with paying a subscription fee while still getting ads shoved down their throat?)

I knew someone who was an early adopter of satellite TV. She said during the news, rather than ads, you saw the hosts smoking and chatting.

That sounds so much more pleasant than what we have today.

When cable had no ads, did all programs just run continously? If a channel did a special where they played standard TV programs designed for over the air broadcast (18-23 minutes/episode), did they just play them consecutively or have some other filler to keep on a 30 or 60 minute schedule?

Re: Twitter acquires Revue

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Post by offtop5 »

ajford wrote: post #85
offtop5 wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not exactly. The Twitter brand isn't looking so hot right now. I think it's the same thing with Slack, Slack only exists because Microsoft teams is made by Microsoft. I swear to God it's mostly a placebo effect, but you're like oh yeah we're using slack we're the cool kids now. Many companies will have a single breakaway team that uses slack just to feel cool. But if $10 a month makes a developer happier she might pr…

We use both Slack and Teams. I strongly disagree that it's the 'cool factor' making Slack better. Teams is just a pain to use for 70% of my day-to-day messaging needs. Teams works well for meetings and large presentations. For intra-team communication and bot integration, Slack wins hands down for my team.

Teams works.

Your team is just used to Slack.

At the same time , if it costs 2k in lost productivity to switch, it's easier to keep using Slack.

I agree Slack is better though. I can't imagine if I started a new team I'd fight for slack over teams though

Re: Twitter acquires Revue

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Post by notahacker »

siruva07 wrote: post #7

Excellent acquisition. Twitter will definitely compete and take marketshare from Substack with lower fees from 20% to 5%. I hope this acquisition is actually a stepping stone for Twitter to become a much better service. Twitter could absolutely become a paid service and move away from ads as its business model. No political ads to worry about. No interference with the product experience. And believe it or not, if I u…

> Imagine paying $1-3 per month for FB or Twitter. We'd no longer be the product — our data not for sale — and the companies would make more money! Knowing that my message would get received, I'd happily pay to slide into the DMs like people do to me on LinkedIn (mostly service providers, but I've gotten some great biz dev connections from InMail).

So my inbox is the product? I think the number of people willing to pay $36 per annum to not see sponsored content in amongst all the organic marketing spam in newsfeeds is a negligible proportion of the user base, especially since ad blockers can be configured to hide it anyway.

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