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Re: Suspended from Google Play for listing supported subtitle formats

#91

This showed up here six minutes after the issue was opened. Kudos for being proactive I guess.

Sadly, sometimes this is the only way to get a human review on issues like this. Go public and be heard or face the ceaseless automated rejections.

Re: Suspended from Google Play for listing supported subtitle formats

#92

I feel lots of the comments are polarized and don't take into the account the magnitude and difficulty of the problem at hand. Additionally, I wonder what the comments would be, if the opposite would have happened, an app with explicit content lands on the playstore. Are there any data available about the false positives false negatives etc. ?

It should have been flagged for human review. People are taking issue with the automated takedown, not that automated detection can produce false positives.

Re: Suspended from Google Play for listing supported subtitle formats

#93

This tracks. One of the things that always gets me about US media is that gratuitous rape - even fairly graphic rape scenes on TV - is just fine as long it doesn't involve visible nipples.

Is that so? I find that U.S.A. media tends to avoid rape but features all other kinds of violence.

Anything related to sex, nudity and swearwords is held to the utmost standards of censorship.

Re: Suspended from Google Play for listing supported subtitle formats

#94
post #82

This tracks. One of the things that always gets me about US media is that gratuitous rape - even fairly graphic rape scenes on TV - is just fine as long it doesn't involve visible nipples.

Could it be because when it comes to nudity, the rules can be clearly defined? "No nipples" is a pretty simple rule that doesn't leave room for interpretation. "No violent rape", "no violent murder" not so much. These are fairly subjective, and even tautological. Not saying it's not a funny paradox, just trying to figure out why.

Nope, that's an unenforceable rule, too. Here's a great article explaining the evolution of FB's nipple policy:

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20190503/17322942136/conte...

Re: Suspended from Google Play for listing supported subtitle formats

#95
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right so when you have some childporn showing up, illegal material what are you going to do?

Contact the police so they can arrest the poster? Also, maintain a public denylist of packages with an transparent process for overriding or correcting the list?

Is a denylist a blacklist? Denylist as a word doesn't really roll off the tongue.

Re: Suspended from Google Play for listing supported subtitle formats

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post #39

It is infuriating that Google's default action for these automated takedowns is to remove the app and ask the developer to upload a new build with a new package name , which means not keeping any of the existing users. It's happened to two of my clients in the past 6 months based on small infractions in the app metadata, but no issue with the app itself. In both cases the app was taken down with no advance notice, an…

I don't understand Google's App store play. Just another walled garden where things like this can happen. They were the champions of the open web for a long time. What happened?

They automated everything in order to not have to invest in human labor, in order to profit most greatly from scale while paying the fewest people they can get away with. Their original index was just an algorithm that distilled human labor from webrings and indexes, that supposedly was great on its own (hint: nope, they crawled the entire Internet, and yet they still remain critically dependent on blogs and news sites for the volunteer labor their algorithm depends on).

Re: Suspended from Google Play for listing supported subtitle formats

#97
How long until people just stop relying on these platforms as the foundation...sorry, no, the single unstable column, that supports their entire business?

Same issue with third party sellers on Amazon getting destroyed when Amazon irrationally shuts down their products or entire account.

It's crazy. This has been screaming for government regulation for years.

Re: Suspended from Google Play for listing supported subtitle formats

#98
post #39

It is infuriating that Google's default action for these automated takedowns is to remove the app and ask the developer to upload a new build with a new package name , which means not keeping any of the existing users. It's happened to two of my clients in the past 6 months based on small infractions in the app metadata, but no issue with the app itself. In both cases the app was taken down with no advance notice, an…

Google uses blacklists of words to demonetize Youtube channels. They have similar blacklists to ban Play apps. I found it the hard way when they removed my video recording app after I simply added "spy cam" in the list of features.

Lesson of life learned, so I implemented ways to keep in contact with my users in case of sudden ban and ask them to move to a new app or another channel.

Re: Suspended from Google Play for listing supported subtitle formats

#99
post #82

This tracks. One of the things that always gets me about US media is that gratuitous rape - even fairly graphic rape scenes on TV - is just fine as long it doesn't involve visible nipples.

Could it be because when it comes to nudity, the rules can be clearly defined? "No nipples" is a pretty simple rule that doesn't leave room for interpretation. "No violent rape", "no violent murder" not so much. These are fairly subjective, and even tautological. Not saying it's not a funny paradox, just trying to figure out why.

“female nipples” have seen many amusing challenges, such as censoring female nipples by hiding them behind male nipples edited over them.

Re: Suspended from Google Play for listing supported subtitle formats

#100

I feel lots of the comments are polarized and don't take into the account the magnitude and difficulty of the problem at hand. Additionally, I wonder what the comments would be, if the opposite would have happened, an app with explicit content lands on the playstore. Are there any data available about the false positives false negatives etc. ?

I have a hunch that if Google actually wanted to fix the issue, they could afford to pay enough people enough money to find a solution.

In the meantime, they're doing this.

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