I use Lastpass, but I'm no longer a fan. So I am considering Bitwarden, but was wondering: What does this afford me that the built in Firefox password manager does not? Firefox now provides a method to generate passwords. Is there something else I am missing?
Bitwarden releases “emergency access” feature
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#92I use Lastpass, but I'm no longer a fan. So I am considering Bitwarden, but was wondering: What does this afford me that the built in Firefox password manager does not? Firefox now provides a method to generate passwords. Is there something else I am missing?
I’m also looking to move away from LastPass. Dropping this comment to get notified of replies.
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#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
After my wife watched the show “Dead To Me” on Netflix, we had this exact same discussion. I ended up writing a “death document” on Google Docs and sharing it with her. It just outlines “here’s where everything is and this is what you do with it”. It was done kind of jokingly, but now that it’s written it actually makes me feel much better. For passwords and such, she has a Bitwarden account too and we share all impo…
Fun story about shared passwords in Bitwarden... I recently had to undo that process because I’m going through divorce. We aren’t at the point of severing everything yet but my ex took the liberty of using the shared Bitwarden passwords to sign into each of the utility (gas, electric, etc) accounts and change the passwords. Thus locking me out. I had resisted doing anything with the shared passwords prior to this bec…
That sucks though I’m not sure your story supports “the Bitwarden process for unsharing is broken”. If you could remove shared passwords from someone else’s vault wouldn’t that just leave _you_ with access, effectively locking out your spouse?
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#94I use Lastpass, but I'm no longer a fan. So I am considering Bitwarden, but was wondering: What does this afford me that the built in Firefox password manager does not? Firefox now provides a method to generate passwords. Is there something else I am missing?
I switched from the Firefox password manager to bw a while ago, but at the time, Firefox didn't allow multiple users to share passwords (organizations).
I share some passwords with my wife, that was enough to switch.
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#95The pandemic has made me (re)evaluate how my family can get to my finances and online services. Such solutions can solve issues related to bank/trading account access and key documents but what about subscription services? All my subscription services from Netflix/Plex (less important) to VPN/Blackblaze (more important) are tied to my credit cards, which upon my untimely demise will be deactivated. My family will sur…
A day before a critical surgery I was told I had 50% chance of survival, being a single founder of my startup I had access to all the accounts, passwords, encrypted data (files, codes etc.) and had to find a way to transfer them to my shareholders if I die.
I settled for writing the master key in a physical file to be delivered to a trusted contact in case of my demise along with registering the fingerprint of my trusted contact to my smartphone(all of which has since been revoked). Bitwarden's Emergency Access addresses this problem in a much safer way.
I didn't think about credit card access then, but in my case I think shareholders could have legally taken over the startup and thereby getting access to all the online subscriptions; what wouldn't have been feasible was accessing the private encrypted data hence the 'need for secure key transfer after death'[1].
[1] https://www.needgap.com/problems/27-secure-transfer-of-encry... (Disclaimer: My problem validation platform where I had posted this problem a while ago).
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#96Am I reading it right that this allows people to designate access to their password manager via email ? I feel like I have to missing something, like a previous step that fingerprints the emergency contact's key or something. (I get that we rely on email for stuff like this all the time, but your password manager is part of what protects your email account, which is why we rely on email as much as we do for resets).
While I make heavy use of a password manager, I still choose to memorize my email password, and not store it in a password manager, precisely because it is is relied on so much, and can be used to reset the majority of the passwords stored in the manager anyway.
For very important passwords that are stored in a password manager, salting it with a memorized phrase is a good idea. That way, if someone gets access to my password manager, they still won't be able to access everything in there.
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#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
> You should be able to set a default username or email to automatically use when creating a new account. I think that might be a mobile limitation. Profiles address that problem but I'm not sure if Android or iOS give developers the ability to autofill profiles. Bitwarden's UX is pretty poor but the way I see it is that's what $12 a year gets me. :)
> Bitwarden's UX is pretty poor Hmm, I've tried LastPass, Enpass, a handful of Keepass clients I can't remember the name of and (shortly) 1Password, and I can't really find anything Bitwarden does that much worse than any of these. To be perfectly honest, they're all kind of clunky, IMHO.
> ...and I can't really find anything Bitwarden does that much worse than any of these.
I feel like I can think of a lot but I'll give you one that, to me, is Bitwarden in a nutshell:
What happens if you open your browser, go to https://news.ycombinator.com/login, and hit Bitwarden's autofill shortcut? Nothing, because you didn't log in to Bitwarden first. Pretty much every other password manager will ask you to log in and then they'll autofill.
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#98The pandemic has made me (re)evaluate how my family can get to my finances and online services. Such solutions can solve issues related to bank/trading account access and key documents but what about subscription services? All my subscription services from Netflix/Plex (less important) to VPN/Blackblaze (more important) are tied to my credit cards, which upon my untimely demise will be deactivated. My family will sur…
A day before a critical surgery I was told I had 50% chance of survival, being a single founder of my startup I had access to all the accounts, passwords, encrypted data (files, codes etc.) and had to find a way to transfer them to my shareholders if I die. I settled for writing the master key in a physical file to be delivered to a trusted contact in case of my demise along with registering the fingerprint of my tru…
So did you make it?
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#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
A day before a critical surgery I was told I had 50% chance of survival, being a single founder of my startup I had access to all the accounts, passwords, encrypted data (files, codes etc.) and had to find a way to transfer them to my shareholders if I die. I settled for writing the master key in a physical file to be delivered to a trusted contact in case of my demise along with registering the fingerprint of my tru…
So did you make it?
Not sure whether it's a serious or funny/GPT question,
But I did survive, but had to shutdown my startup anyways[2].
[2]https://abishekmuthian.com/i-was-told-i-would-become-quadrip...
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#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
Keep a copy in there if you want for convenience, I argue you’ll still want a paper backup somewhere. Opsec is hard, people are fallible. “What was the password?”, “Where’s the Yubikey?”, etc. These are not the failure scenarios you want to encounter during a tragedy (speaking from experience).
Bank safety deposit box is probably a good option for backup, it's very unlikely that both your home and the bank will burn down at the same time.
My house, several of my friends' houses, my insurance agent's office, my vet, all burned down in the same wildfire a few months ago. Local banks were destroyed along with everything stored in them, and we nearly lost our kids' school. Standing at the remains of my house, looking around at the destroyed community, it looks like we were firebombed. Not modern precision strikes... WWII scale, wrath of god, miles of destruction firebombed.
Anyway, I'm just saying that things you think are safe, really aren't. It's inconceivable that two houses across town from each other would burn down on the same day, until they do. Probably not going to happen, but sometimes it does.
Thankfully, my wife grabbed the binder with accounts and passwords, along with the kids and pets, when she evacuated, while I was stuck on a backed-up freeway an hour away.
I've been very conscientious since then about keeping both a physical and digital copy of everything important. I would never trust digital alone, but a physical copy just isn't reliable enough.