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How to leave Google and why

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Re: How to leave Google and why

#91
> Some people say "I have nothing to hide, I don't care" which is essentialy ignoring basic human right and making this right worthless to you and very precious to others.

This doesn't make much sense, but I think I get the idea.

What most people mean when they say this is "the value I get out is worth more than the data I put in". And that's a perfectly valid view.

Re: How to leave Google and why

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post #81
post #75

Ironically, leaving google is easier on Android because you can download and use apps without the App Store. For example, how is using YouTube via the iOS app any different _at all_? If you had android you could use the app newpipe.

IMO: continuing to use youtube in any way isn't really leaving google.

True, but proxying an app you use heavily to transition to a new platform can be useful.

In any case, YouTube alternatives like LBRY have way better apps for android. Element (matrix chat) is also 100x better on android.

I can only imagine that android is easier to develop on and get approved, even for more experimental apps like Manyverse (secure-scuttlebutt twitter).

Re: How to leave Google and why

#93
post #10

I recently closed my Google account after a few months of an automated message informing anyone that the address would be closed soon (using the "Vacation responder" functionality from Gmail settings). In the meantime, I started using my new email address for all my online accounts and I passed it on to all my contacts. Another thing I did, was to download all my Google data (I saved the archives on my NAS at home an…

Be careful with Google Takeout. I've found empty archives in there. Sometimes redownloading fixes it, sometimes not. (My chat messages from <2019 are permagone it seems)

Re: How to leave Google and why

#94

I'd love to leave! As soon as someone comes up with a half decent hosted calendar service that's half as good as Google Calendar. People like to give GCal a lot of shit while comparing it with local apps; there's very few hosted services that are so versatile.

Well, there is Microsoft and the whole online Outlook stuff that comes with every Microsoft/OneDrive account ...

Re: How to leave Google and why

#95
post #91

> Some people say "I have nothing to hide, I don't care" which is essentialy ignoring basic human right and making this right worthless to you and very precious to others. This doesn't make much sense, but I think I get the idea. What most people mean when they say this is "the value I get out is worth more than the data I put in". And that's a perfectly valid view.

> "the value I get out is worth more than the data I put in". And that's a perfectly valid view.

Sure. But that is only a valid view if the seller of services is transparent about the price.

Currently, I have absolutely no idea what I am paying to use Google.

Re: How to leave Google and why

#96
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm using my own instance of mail-in-a-box, of course this is not going to be everyone's cup of tea, because you basically become your own admin. But personally I enjoy doing that, and the maintenance required is really minimal. If you are looking for cloud/managed alternatives you can have a look at the list here https://degoogle.jmoore.dev/

i am interested in mailinabox. i think next month i am going to take the plunge but i need a webmail. my question, how much of a vps server do you need to set one up? 1Gb ram for miab+roundcube? any better foss webmail like roundcube or squirrelmail? also, have you looked into oracle always free ? would that work?

Porkbun: email for $24/year + domain registration

Re: How to leave Google and why

#97
post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can avoid facebook completely, I can't avoid google.

Care to elaborate? My previous post had an argument about how you can't avoid Facebook, as someone who uses Facebook probably already shared your contact information from their phone with them without you knowing anything about it.

Not to mention all the 3rd parties that put facebook trackers on their websites.

Re: How to leave Google and why

#98

I'd love to leave! As soon as someone comes up with a half decent hosted calendar service that's half as good as Google Calendar. People like to give GCal a lot of shit while comparing it with local apps; there's very few hosted services that are so versatile.

Well, there is Microsoft and the whole online Outlook stuff that comes with every Microsoft/OneDrive account ...

If the reason people are leaving privacy, Microsoft doesn't fare much better.

Re: How to leave Google and why

#99
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> probably because they managed their public relations better It's not only PR. Google haven't violated their users' privacy to the extent Facebook have, it's not even close.

Can you elaborate on how you made that conclusion?

A great heuristic to show this is the article.

It's titled how to leave Google. It concludes with how to leave Google. But the vast majority of evidence it uses to justify leaving Google are Facebook privacy examples.

I suspect the author, who is clearly no Google fan, put some effort into looking at Google's privacy violations, but even then had to resort to pointing to FB's instead to beef up their article.

It's certainly possible that Google has hidden it better, but there is no evidence to suggest that FB does not have the same, or better talent, for that matter, to do the same.

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