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Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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It must feel pretty surreal to be someone that is constantly moving to different communication apps and instantly finding them pulled by anyone and everyone. We've seen an escalation of this from higher-level platforms (obviously Twitter can ban an account if they desire) to medium-level platforms (I suppose Apple gets to pick what I can do on my own phone even if it feels a bit wrong), but I'm curious if this will a…

> At this point it appears to be in a bit of a feedback loop as well, since it's obvious that deplatforming groups will make them feel persecuted and even more upset, which then makes them more likely to be deplatformed by whichever platform they move to next.

No one can deplatform me. I use Gab on iOS from my phone and pad and Apple can kiss my ass. I don't even have to use iOS either. In fact the next phone isn't going to be iOS, just to make sure their get the message.

I had skipped Parler and their app just to make sure I don't have to deal with the censoring idiots from Apple again - that decision has already paid back.

Millions have moved to Gab whose service runs on Gab-owned physical servers. Gab doesn't depend on Silicon Valley Deep State Democrats, and their app is OSS (although you don't need the app, you can use Gab from the browser), thank you very much!

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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At what exact point, I wonder, will Hacker News stop complaining about slippery slopes and freedom of speech, and actually consider the possibility that they might lose a whole lot more than the ability to run an app? That they might, reasonably, lose the privilege of living in a functioning democracy?

That maybe there are more pressing concerns than what apps they can run on their phones? More pressing concerns than the ability to act like an asshole online? That maybe it's time to take the threat of the far right seriously?

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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2021 would be better, they said. things can only look up after 2020, they said... it's starting to feel like someone is tightening the screws on the tech companies. that is, if one wants to provide a charitable explanation for their decisions this past year. it's pretty surreal to see tech sector's lockstep march.

A wild guess.

Globalized economy benefits the entire tech sector plus some parts of non-tech. It also hurts a number of businesses and a huge number of American workers. Trump is an anti-globalist, hence why he gets pummeled.

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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I am really disappointed that it has come to this. In a short few days we have normalized: 1. Twitter picking political winners and losers, where they ban some accounts like Trump but allow others (like the Chinese or Iranian government, like BLM associated rioters, etc.) to post whatever they want. 2. Collusion between different tech companies all adopting the same policy in lock step, with no real choice (no real m…

1. An Iranian remark about unsafe vaccines was pulled (so not true)

2. If you don't use racial slurs, call for hate or violence, there is no problem for anybody.

3. This is not about censorship in the sense that the government forbids you to speak. This is companies denying 'you' access to a megaphone if you use it to call for violence, hate and use racial slurs.

The idea of 'heavy censorship' is ludicrous to me. Nobody is being censored. You can still say what you want, but nobody has to listen to you.

And if you don't use racial slurs, call for hate and violence, you are totally free to use the platforms.

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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No worries guys, they can just develop their own os! With their own app store! And when hosting companies ban them they can just write a new ip version and host it on their own internet.

Seriously, apple, Google, Twitter, Facebook are monopolies. And they are behaving in an extremely anticompetitive manner. They should be forced to operate like utilities, or get broken up. Utilities should not get to ban paying customers without a court order.

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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Anyone who thinks this is a line too far really needs to start reading these sites before they get deplatformed. There are constant, intense calls for violence (in Minecraft), photoshopped porn of Hunter Biden and just a regular stream of dog whistles and keywords that cannot be interpreted any other way. There is no loss here. The right has collectively lost its mind and these sites are pure sewer. On top of this, t…

> The right has collectively lost its mind and these sites are pure sewer.

Until now, only the most extreme positions were forced into "the sewer". Expelling Trump from Twitter will force him and tens of millions of his followers onto one of these platforms. The sewer is going to overflow.

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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Political affiliation needs to become a protected class.

If your business is open to the public, you can’t deny people service for being gay or black (which is a great thing) - you also shouldn’t be able to deny them service based on their politics.

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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I can't wait for ISPs to start censoring the type of content that you would find on Parler, not because I think they should or that it is a good thing but because of the schadenfreude. Republicans fought hard to kill network neutrality and having their faces eaten by its removal in such a short time would be worth it.
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