Erdoğan’s censorship now targeting media outlets in Europe

It's also non-free countries. The Saudi royal family will go so far as to murder journalists in other countries to preserve their power. Letting a couple of million syrians die is nothing to them, and they're happily smashing up Yemen at the moment.

Per Wikipedia:

> "Switzerland was easy to reach for refugees from the Nazis. Switzerland's refugee laws, especially with respect to Jews fleeing Germany, were strict and have caused controversy since the end of World War II. From 1933 until 1944 asylum for refugees could only be granted to those who were under personal threat owing to their political activities only; it did not include those who were under threat due to race, religion or ethnicity.[33] On the basis of this definition, Switzerland granted asylum to only 644 people between 1933 and 1945; of these, 252 cases were admitted during the war.[33] All other refugees were admitted by the individual cantons and were granted different permits, including a "tolerance permit" that allowed them to live in the canton but not to work. Over the course of the war, Switzerland interned 300,000 refugees.[34] Of these, 104,000 were foreign troops interned according to the Rights and Duties of Neutral Powers outlined in the Hague Conventions. The rest were foreign civilians and were either interned or granted tolerance or residence permits by the cantonal authorities. Refugees were not allowed to hold jobs. Of the refugees, 60,000 were civilians escaping persecution by the Nazis. Of these 60,000, 27,000 were Jews.[33] Between 10,000 and 24,000 Jewish civilian refugees were refused entry"

Europe's relatively humanitarian laws about refugees are based in the knowledge of how many countries barred entry to Jews who were subsequently exterminated in the gas chambers.

First of all, democracy is not happening, at all. If you have any opposite thoughts, yes thoughts, not actions, you can face real jail time. This can be a comment on Twitter, or even something you say in your neighbourhood, around friends, anything and anywhere. No cartoons, no essays, no personal blogs. You can have an pollice officer in your door knocking.

We have a big website called "eksisozluk" which motto was "sacred source of knowledge", and now is filled with entries, posts regulated and restricted with court orders, deleted accounts, and also imprisoned users.

Turkey blocked Youtube, Wikipedia and such websites for a very long time. Paypal is still not operating. Even they seem not related, everything is related. Journalists are in prison, some of them are in exile, or some even dead.

Sorry for not revealing news or links, because of time, but Google can do that for me in an instance. So go ahead and search.

They are doing everything in their power to succeed. And I believe this will go on for a long time.

I have no politics in this matter, as I have no list of desired winners or losers and no desired end-state (aside from just being generally unhappy with the way things are in Turkey currently). I don't know how I could be less political.

It's a very complex situation, as you've pointed out. My only intent was to provide a shorthand evaluation of the area for others to dive down on if they desired. There is no one "Turkey", which is why I used the broad term. Of course it's much more nuanced. Thanks for the help.

> taking over

Culture. Dilution of values. Fundamentalism which is so entrenched the religion (I suspect, high 90s % of strongly religious demographics, primarily Islam).

Long term, I see even worse divergence of national unity - these people are now speaking the language, but their own German dialect, their kids are raising with local kids, etc. I personally do not see Germans share most of middle-eastern/islamic values. You cannot forcefully assimilate 2 different polarizing cultures, it is a time bomb of cultural divide. No matter how humanitarian your views are, there is no going away from this fact.

I think the best solution is to provide aid - military, financial, food/medicine to these impoverished countries instead of taking refugees.

Edit: I can't respond to your comment below, but I basically have fundamental disagreement about aligning Holocaust with Syrian refugee crisis. You're trying to shoehorn a narrative from the perspective of the lawmakers, I am asking simple questions about assimilation and integration. We're talking past each other? Anyways, I learned a few things from your opinions about the history of these archaic refugee laws. IMO they should be with the neighbors, not transcontinental. Thanks for the discussion.