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That's what set Steve Jobs apart. Your typical executive could take months between rejecting your idea and proposing it as their own. But Jobs could compress this down to a week.
I'm amazed how absolutely every character flaw Jobs had gets turned into a positive. If I had a nickel for how many times I've seen this happen on the internet, I'd be rich.
An internal team 'hoodwinked' Bill Gates into launching the Xbox project
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Re: An internal team 'hoodwinked' Bill Gates into launching the Xbox project
#92'He tells us: "Eventually somebody would come back to you with your idea – they would say, 'Hey, you know, this doesn't need Windows at all'. And you have to control your urge to fucking kill them, because you've been telling them that for two years and now they finally come up with it like it's their idea. But that's the Jedi mind trick." ' OMG. I learned this a few years ago working in a corp environment with stubb…
Central plot of the movie Inception ;-)
Re: An internal team 'hoodwinked' Bill Gates into launching the Xbox project
#93'He tells us: "Eventually somebody would come back to you with your idea – they would say, 'Hey, you know, this doesn't need Windows at all'. And you have to control your urge to fucking kill them, because you've been telling them that for two years and now they finally come up with it like it's their idea. But that's the Jedi mind trick." ' OMG. I learned this a few years ago working in a corp environment with stubb…
There is nothing strange about that, unfortunately. It's just how people work. Things like this are also why I sincerely hope that humanity eventually dies off and is replaced by literally any species, natural or artificial, that bases decisions on logic and facts.
There is no such thing as a meritocracy when humans are involved, no matter how much we delude ourselves to believe otherwise.
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I’ve had coworkers who were on the original Xbox team and they told me that the OS was not Windows. One of the things about the Xbox OS is that the OS itself gets a fixed timeslice each frame to do whatever it needs while the game is running, in order to make it so the game can get the rest of the frame to run. This sounds to me like a decision that has far-reaching consequences. I’m sure that it shares plenty code w…
By that standard, is a Hyper-V server running Windows? AFAIK, that's also just running NT as a guest.
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I suppose that depends on how all gazillion AWS instances running Linux counts.
AWS instances run Windows too. And MS makes money off those instances. Also, Azure runs Linux too. Microsoft is in the post-Windows phase and it's working on things that will keep it relevant long term
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> It's easy to remember all the things he botched (hello iphone?) but if you look at it objectively I think Ms did survive and prospered under Ballmer. If you look at it objectively you include all the things he botched, which are "easy to remember" according to you. At best, he was meh. In my personal opinion he was horrible - I think a random employee likely would have done better.
I’m going to respectfully disagree. He did contribute to MS before he became CEO. And invested in a lot of things where the fruits are harvested to this day.
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#97The original Xbox lost money over its entire life. It wasn't until the second generation that Microsoft moved into positive territory on that. Hardware had to get cheaper before a PC in a game console case was profitable.
It was also Microsoft's highest selling console ever [2]. Note that the PlayStation, PlayStation 2, PlayStation 3 and PlayStation 4 each individually outsold it though. As a result, Microsoft has never outsold Sony with an x86 PC-like console, despite trying multiple times.
Ironically, recent PlayStation consoles have been x86. Maybe Microsoft kind of won in the end? It still doesn't run Windows through, so maybe Microsoft was right from the start?
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_game_cons...
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#98Has Xbox ever been profitable for Microsoft? The rumors I have always heard indicated that it wasn't [1]. Maybe it was worthwhile for protecting their Windows business, maybe they never should have bothered. Even if it is profitable now (I can't find any information one way or another), it doesn't seem like it turned out to be a worthwhile investment. Maybe Steve Ballmer was right? [1] https://www.cgmagonline.com/201…
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#99Url changed from https://www.gamesradar.com/seamus-blackley-on-tricking-bill-... , which points to this.
Could you change the title too, then, please? The new URL talks about this, but as part of a larger conversation.
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#100Right, yeah, people hated Microsoft's software so much that they bought it by the bucket load.
Also that comment about midway being problematic. Why is it problematic!? Did WW2 not happen? Who'd actually be offended?