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Re: Do You Love Me? [video]

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Post by andi999 »

6gvONxR4sf7o wrote: post #65

So what's the main barrier to using these industrially? Is it reliability? Did this video a zillion takes? Is it manufacturing? Maybe it's hard to scale them up? Is it battery life? Maybe it can power itself for just a few minutes? Is it object manipulation or sensing/world understanding? Maybe it can't apply the right forces to a soft thing or a flexible thing or know what it can step on vs over or what will move or…

Who needs dancing robots? What I mean this video does not show that useful work has been implemented. Probably flexibility of tasks might be a problem. Or there is no problem and we see rollout in the next few years.

Re: Do You Love Me? [video]

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Post by arrosenberg »

agency wrote: post #41
f6v wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have a source for that? I’m genuinely interested what kind of AI can act 100% autonomously on the battlefield.

Why would these things need to be fully autonomous to be scary? The fact that there might be a human operator in the loop would be cold comfort with one of these things hauling ass towards me...

Wouldn't you be able to stop it with a foil blanket in that case? A lack of autonomy would mean any kind of faraday cage would make it a paperweight.

Re: Do You Love Me? [video]

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Post by indigochill »

meowster wrote: post #18

It's a mashup of clips taken at different times (engineer in the background, no engineer, engineer in the same apot again, etc). The balancing of the first bipedal robot doesn't seem right to my human eyes, but I think it's conceivable that computers controling a robot could manage it. Also, the dual bipedal robots aren't perfectly in-sync which is either very good cgi, or it's real.

Although I believe it's real (this is Boston Dynamics, after all), CGI characters dancing slightly out-of-sync could be achieved naturally if you motion-captured actors performing the dance.

Re: Do You Love Me? [video]

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Post by JshWright »

meowster wrote: post #18

It's a mashup of clips taken at different times (engineer in the background, no engineer, engineer in the same apot again, etc). The balancing of the first bipedal robot doesn't seem right to my human eyes, but I think it's conceivable that computers controling a robot could manage it. Also, the dual bipedal robots aren't perfectly in-sync which is either very good cgi, or it's real.

Are you talking about the cuts that start around 1:50? I think it's pretty obvious those are different takes (there are different robots in different positions instantaneously, I don't think anyone would expect that to be physically possible). The same thing is frequently done with human performers as well.

There's no way Boston Dynamics would publish a hyper-realistic fake (setting aside how much effort that would be). It would be very damaging to their brand.

Re: Do You Love Me? [video]

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Post by SubGenius »

kazinator wrote: post #62
intrasight wrote: post #13

As someone who worked in robotics at CMU in the mid 80s with Whittaker, & Raibert, and Crowley this was definitely super exciting to watch. You've come a long way baby. I remember watching you great, great grandfather hopping around in Raibert's lab in 1984. Yeah, and sort of scary.

Alternative version: I remember watching your great grandmother's legs cavorting around in Herbie Hancock's "Rock It" video ... in 1984. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHhD4PD75zY

Ah, thanks for sharing the song. Haven't heard it in a while. I was listening to Chick Corea's 80s material earlier today though. That era had a lot of cheesy sounding jazz fusion that I can't get enough of!

Re: Do You Love Me? [video]

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Post by blackrock »

f6v wrote: post #22
11thEarlOfMar wrote: post #7

First reaction: It's official. I am very afraid. Second reaction: When's the OK Go video released? Third reaction: They paid Boston Dynamics engineers to do this ?

I kind of wish there was a reason to be afraid, but I don’t think AI is anywhere near that.

You don’t need true AI to make this thing deadly or oppressive.

You don’t need an AI that ponders the meaning of life for you.

You just need a smart Decision and Control System (DCS).

Paired with additional technology for facial and gait recognition, obstacle avoidance, path planning, and you have all the hallmarks of a rudimentary hunter-killer bot.

What Boston Dynamics cracked here, is the physical control mechanism to allow these robots to live in our world.

Next, they need to build the brains, to allow this machine to move independently and autonomously.

Re: Do You Love Me? [video]

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Post by drannex »

joe_the_user wrote: post #89
6gvONxR4sf7o wrote: post #65

So what's the main barrier to using these industrially? Is it reliability? Did this video a zillion takes? Is it manufacturing? Maybe it's hard to scale them up? Is it battery life? Maybe it can power itself for just a few minutes? Is it object manipulation or sensing/world understanding? Maybe it can't apply the right forces to a soft thing or a flexible thing or know what it can step on vs over or what will move or…

I'm not sure what you mean by "industrially". In actual factories, which are highly controlled environments, the things called robots are much simpler and more specialized. So you're "Is it just that anything worth automating is worth specializing, and there are better robots for different specific tasks?" point is more or less it. But also consider, while these bipedal, quadrupedal and wheeled robots can do all sort…

> And the Big Dog needs constant direction.

And the Big Dog requires a lot of technical experts surrounding it at all times, an energy production system, and if it falls over or gets stuck it will be harder for one or two people to get it back to orientation.

Re: Do You Love Me? [video]

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Post by anigbrowl »

ionwake wrote: post #31
blackrock wrote: post #15

It was all fun and games at first. Then the second robot came into the picture. I went LOL. Then Spot came into the picture, and my heart skipped a beat. Then the velociraptor on wheels came into the picture, and I just lost it. I think my brain just melted down. Next stop: Guns. Lots of guns. Time to be afraid. Very afraid.

The velociraptor on wheels is a good name. I shudder to think what war variant machines will resort to when they are running low on ammo. Do robots need to follow the Geneva convention?

Just look at the history of landmines. 164 countries have voted to ban them, 33 have not. surprisingly (or not), at least one of these countries professes to be horrified when low-tech versions of the same technology are deployed against it and considers that to be appalling moral cowardice.

Re: Do You Love Me? [video]

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Post by thewarrior »

6gvONxR4sf7o wrote: post #65

So what's the main barrier to using these industrially? Is it reliability? Did this video a zillion takes? Is it manufacturing? Maybe it's hard to scale them up? Is it battery life? Maybe it can power itself for just a few minutes? Is it object manipulation or sensing/world understanding? Maybe it can't apply the right forces to a soft thing or a flexible thing or know what it can step on vs over or what will move or…

A human in India or China can be had for a couple of hundred dollars a month. These robots probably cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to buy and maintain. And they aren’t as adaptable.
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