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Re: Xfce 4.16

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Post by stjohnswarts »

kieckerjan wrote: post #55
Kototama wrote: post #20

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Me too but I can tell you why. - Coherency: the way it works and is presented does not change much over the years. It's important for me. I don't want to adapt everytime a designer thinks he has a good idea. - Simplicity: it just works and is well configured out of the box - Efficiency: not the lightest Desktop Manager in the market but it is light enough so it won't eat resources for nothing - Right level of complex…

Wow, I just learned from your casual remark that you can actually search in the xfce console. Awesome!

You can search in gnome-terminal and konsole as well. It's a fairly common feature.

Re: Xfce 4.16

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Post by stjohnswarts »

ohazi wrote: post #27
Ygg2 wrote: post #23

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Funny you say that, but on a limited Linux VM, it's the only environment that runs and looks relatively decent. KDE - Looks great, runs like a slug stuck in molasses. Gnome - Looks meh, runs slightly better. Unity - Looks great, same performance as KDE.

For whatever reason XFCE gets accused of looking ugly, but I tend to agree with you. It looks fine out of the box, better with some minor tweaking, and is fully themeable if you're into that sort of thing. KDE always had a reputation for being a bit of a resource hog. Gnome 3 was a rewrite in Javascript, so no surprises there. I never personally used Unity, but it always felt a little annoying when I had to use it on…

The latest version of KDE (past year or so) uses approximately the same "freshly launched" size as XFCE does and is as snappy as anything else on a relatively modern system (when compared to Gnome3 and XFCE). I think the main reason to pick XFCE is the interface and overall stability not because it's lighter than KDE any longer.

Re: Xfce 4.16

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Post by anthk »

Snortibartfast wrote: post #82
awiesenhofer wrote: post #68

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Wow, what a blast from the past. I always wonder though is anyone actually using themes like these as their actual daily driver? Link to the project with Screenshots: https://github.com/grassmunk/Chicago95

I've used Memphis98 (similar to Chicago95) since it came out. Although just as a GTK-theme, not the entire desktop. Window manager is FVWM and taskbar/panel/session-manager is LXQt, so it's a bit of a Franken-desktop :) For Qt-apps I use the "Windows" style so they fit together nicely. Comparing Memphis and Chicago, there are some layout-bugs in Memphis, but I feel like it's overall a bit better balanced than Chicago…

For a FVWM/Motif based theme, you may like the OL/Motif themes from B00merang.

OpenLook https://b00merang.weebly.com/solaris-8.html

Motif https://b00merang.weebly.com/solaris-9.html

The Solaris 9 theme works great with FVWM.

Re: Xfce 4.16

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Post by stjohnswarts »

bmn__ wrote: post #74
p4bl0 wrote: post #31

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KDE is lighter than XFCE on RAM.

Reality says no. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24503435

Reality says it depends. Various distros load various utilities. Kubuntu and Xubuntu for example use close to the same amount of memory from on button press to sitting idle. Thus it all depends on what you launch. It's quite common for a browser with lots of windows to use 8-10 times the memory that either xfce or kde uses at start so it really is diminishing returns if you have a modern system with 8+ G of ram.

Re: Xfce 4.16

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Post by anthk »

I hope they redo the old GTK and XFWM themes for XFCE but for GTK3. Some themes had no match, specially that one yellow/lavender one with a gradient window close to the XP colours, but with no bezels.

Re: Xfce 4.16

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Post by stjohnswarts »

bflesch wrote: post #50

Does anybody know how hard is it to switch from gnome to xfce on arch linux? Is it just removing gnome and installing xfce? Maybe someone could share their experience who has made the switch recently. If it is not a big thing that could potentially break everything, then I'd be happy to try it out.

Find the Arch page on installing XFCE and it will tell you the combination of packages you want and after the install log out and you should be able to select your desktop via your login manager. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xfce

Re: Xfce 4.16

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Post by stjohnswarts »

Der_Einzige wrote: post #75

Ah, the best non tiling desktop environment on linux just got an update. Nice! Not slow, not bloated, just a DE as it should be. The alternatives simply don't work for me. lxde or lxqt are horribly ugly to me.

lxde is so dang light (especially installation and memory wise) though :) . It is my go to for a VM where I need GUI stuff but don't want to pay too much for it.

Re: Xfce 4.16

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Post by alxlaz »

29athrowaway wrote: post #28
himujjal wrote: post #9

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Curious here. Advantages of XFCE over KDE or Gnome. I use KDE. I need to know from a regular user. VM is not enough.

XFCE is a lightweight desktop environment that uses GTK. It has its own GTK engine, window manager (XFWM), and its own set of apps built on top of GTK... most of them much are faster than their Gnome counterparts. Thunar is much faster than Nautilus, XFWM is faster than Mutter, XFCE panels are much faster than the Gnome Shell, XFCE GTK engine is much faster than Adwaita... and the list just goes on and on. The result…

> XFCE GTK engine is much faster than Adwaita

Not to rain on anyone's parade but the XFCE GTK engines haven't worked in a heck of a long time because theme engines were removed ("deprecated", quoth the GTK team, as in they left the interface in but removed the actual functionality, so they didn't do anything anymore) many years ago. The default XFCE theme (Greybird, I think?) uses CSS, just like Adwaita, and there's basically no difference between the two.

Everything else is true as far as I know :-).

Re: Xfce 4.16

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Post by stunt »

One of the great things about Xfce is that everything is just a standalone component.

My desktop is Xmonad and xfce-panel works great on it. I use panel, settings, power-manager from Xfce (probably a few more). It's very stable and its simple and flat design makes it a great fit for tiling window managers.

Re: Xfce 4.16

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Post by utxaa »

severine wrote: post #46

Xfce has another little detail not mentioned here: a very friendly forum with one of the best moderators of the whole internet. "Moderator" doesn't make him justice, though: ToZ will help you achieve almost anything imaginable when it comes to Xfce, and then some! Big kudos to all the Xfce team and community, and extra sweet love to ToZ, you rock!

well said.

xfce is a gem. ToZ is the man.

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