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Re: Joining Apple 40 years ago

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Post by anshumankmr »

neogodless wrote: post #74
ascagnel_ wrote: post #63

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While I generally agree, I think MS has to copy Apple here, but not because they need to make the same products. The M1 chip was Apple planting the flag for consumer-level ARM performance, and every indication is that they'll be able to scale that performance up to more demanding use-cases. MS's fortunes are tied to Intel and Qualcomm for the time being, both of whom are falling behind on performance and performance/…

I wish there was a third entity in addition to Intel and Qualcomm that produced computer processing units that Windows would run on. Some kind of advanced micro devices that outperformed both Intel and Qualcomm would be really interesting to watch.

AMD?

Re: Joining Apple 40 years ago

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Post by edoceo »

bovermyer wrote: post #61
mattlutze wrote: post #7

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Given the time that's passed since then, you'd be one of the old rich person. Austin sounds like an up-and-coming Valley, as do a few other really gorgeous locations around the US. The trick is to pick one and settle in early.

Minneapolis is also gorgeous, and relatively cheap. There's a "greenway" for bikes and pedestrians that's a converted railway. It has a huge music and art scene. There are tons of local breweries and more than a handful of startups and big name companies with a presence there.

It's lovely, true. But! Get some warm clothes!

Re: Joining Apple 40 years ago

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Post by jidiculous »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #28

I don’t know if Chris Espinosa still works for Apple, but I think he might have been around a couple of years before Gassé. He started as a teenager. I’ve been writing Apple software since 1986. Lots of changes, since then. I remember it as being a fairly “scruffy” little company; especially if you went to MacHack. I worked for GE, at the time, and the corporate culture differences were quite stark. GE was a “shirt a…

> I don’t know if Chris Espinosa still works for Apple but I think he might have been around a couple of years before Gassé. He started as a teenager.

He's still at Apple, and was actually employee #8, making him its longest-serving employee according to his Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Espinosa

Re: Joining Apple 40 years ago

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Post by edoceo »

barry-cotter wrote: post #38
WalterBright wrote: post #31

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> If building housing were legal it would. That's a quite different scenario. You could confiscate the homes of everyone over 60, distribute them for free to young people, and the market prices of the homes would remain the same.

Quite. So increase supply. Build, build, build.

Or reduce demand. Move move move

Re: Joining Apple 40 years ago

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Post by edoceo »

anshumankmr wrote: post #91
neogodless wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish there was a third entity in addition to Intel and Qualcomm that produced computer processing units that Windows would run on. Some kind of advanced micro devices that outperformed both Intel and Qualcomm would be really interesting to watch.

AMD?

Yep, that's the punch line

Re: Joining Apple 40 years ago

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Post by OkGoDoIt »

tasty_freeze wrote: post #80
supernova87a wrote: post #4

Can you imagine moving to the Bay Area in the 80s? To grow up when land was still cheap, before college competition was cutthroat and unaffordable, when relatively simple competence could get you a solid job and VC/PE firms weren't plundering and incentivizing the latest 30-second attention-span app to reach $1B? It would be me living in Los Altos now, instead of the old rich people who I curse for refusing to die or…

You have a distorted picture. I moved to the bay area in 85, stayed 20 years, then left. If you moved there and were already well established, sure, real estate would have been more affordable then than now. But as a young engineer, things were still pretty expensive. My starting salary as a BSEE working for a minicomputer company was $30,000. Two weeks after arriving they had layoffs. They were nice to the new hires…

Now that is perspective I’d like to hear more about, considering how much my peers whine about how things would’ve been better if they moved to the bay area long ago and it’s all crappy nowadays. That’s not nearly as much change as I would’ve expected in inflation-adjusted dollars. I do wonder how typical your case is though. I would love to hear more data points from others in similar situations.

With all the old rent controlled apartment in San Francisco, it certainly feels like people who moved here a decade or two ago are locked into to paying basically nothing by modern standards. I personally know a couple people who still live with their exes because their rent-controlled apartment is too good a deal to give up.

Re: Joining Apple 40 years ago

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Post by OkGoDoIt »

bovermyer wrote: post #61
mattlutze wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given the time that's passed since then, you'd be one of the old rich person. Austin sounds like an up-and-coming Valley, as do a few other really gorgeous locations around the US. The trick is to pick one and settle in early.

Minneapolis is also gorgeous, and relatively cheap. There's a "greenway" for bikes and pedestrians that's a converted railway. It has a huge music and art scene. There are tons of local breweries and more than a handful of startups and big name companies with a presence there.

Basically all of that applies to Atlanta as well, if you prefer weather that’s too hot and humid over whether that’s too cold and snowy.

Re: Joining Apple 40 years ago

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Post by OkGoDoIt »

sgt wrote: post #33
onethought wrote: post #23

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I think Shenzhen is the new valley of 1980. (Though to the GP you’re probably already priced out of the housing market there too )

But China is still rotten to its core. Eventually that'll backfire heavily on both Shenzhen and entrepreneurs trying their luck there.

Regardless of your opinion on Chinese politics (or your opinion on California politics for that matter), Shenzhen is absolutely blowing up. Just talking with random tech and startup people there, you feel an energy and optimism that is hard to find in the bay area these days. As a non-Chinese citizen, investing in property there feels a bit too risky for my appetite, but I certainly would not bet against it.

Re: Joining Apple 40 years ago

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Post by shuckles »

OkGoDoIt wrote: post #97
tasty_freeze wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have a distorted picture. I moved to the bay area in 85, stayed 20 years, then left. If you moved there and were already well established, sure, real estate would have been more affordable then than now. But as a young engineer, things were still pretty expensive. My starting salary as a BSEE working for a minicomputer company was $30,000. Two weeks after arriving they had layoffs. They were nice to the new hires…

Now that is perspective I’d like to hear more about, considering how much my peers whine about how things would’ve been better if they moved to the bay area long ago and it’s all crappy nowadays. That’s not nearly as much change as I would’ve expected in inflation-adjusted dollars. I do wonder how typical your case is though. I would love to hear more data points from others in similar situations. With all the old re…

San Francisco rent control is below inflation, so it gets cheaper every year you stay.
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