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The Internet Is for Porn

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Re: The Internet Is for Porn

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Post by est31 »

fullshark wrote: post #44

This guy seems to be operating on the assumption that MEN are to blame for pornography's status as a social pariah. As if mothers everywhere would be proud of their daughters producing pornography on Onlyfans if only their husbands weren't in their ear shaming them.

Those same mothers would likely be very glad if their daughter got a man with a well paying job, lots of money, and a big house. They think more in terms of their generation, how women's access to status worked back when they were young. Onlyfans opens a different way for attractive women to attain wealth. Much safer, and with way less pain involved than going through a marriage that was done for the money instead of for love, plus a painful divorce afterwards.

Re: The Internet Is for Porn

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Post by Red_Tarsius »

This article gives me the same vibes of that comic strip set in a post apocalyptic wasteland: "But for a beautiful moment in time we created a lot of value for shareholders". It reads like a parody of SV culture. Can some woke capitalist please tell me what's so empowering about women who are forced to sell body pics for a living? Should we thank OnlyFans for exploiting the lack of safety net in our society?

Re: The Internet Is for Porn

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Post by weregiraffe »

spaceribs wrote: post #42
lucian1900 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is now disputed. It’s likely it was a self-portrait, it matches the posture of a woman looking down at her own reflection.

Can you please provide a reputable source?

Can you provide an opposing source?

Re: The Internet Is for Porn

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Post by HuwytNashi_002 »

seibelj wrote: post #16

This is a super good read, if you have 10 minutes I highly recommend. I have absolutely no problems with pornography and if my own daughter decided this was the industry she wanted to enter I would help jumpstart her career anyway I could just as I would any career she chose. My wife and I are very free spirits and the previous HN discussions on Pornhub / NYT article made me feel like I was taking crazy pills and liv…

>if my own daughter decided this was the industry she wanted to enter I would help jumpstart her career

Luckily for you, engaging in porn is strongly correlated with the absence of a loving father. Hopefully she rebels and comes to value her dignity and virtue, even if you don't.

Re: The Internet Is for Porn

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Post by lumberjack »

spaceribs wrote: post #75
lumberjack wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are literal pimps doing literal pimp work: recruiting young girls, connecting them with clients, and taking a cut of the profit, while keeping control of the whole business. It is not my fault you are offended. I would have no problem if these sex workers setup their own site and did their own business directly with their clients. No pimp would be involved then. There would be no recruiting, which is also where…

Lets break down your "pimping" attributes: - Recruiting young girls: Good infantilization here, you mean young women over the age of consent that can decide for themselves what they can do with their bodies? Those women? And how are they being recruited? By demonstrating the value of their service and being an attractive alternative to McDonald's minimum wage burger flipping? Is McDonalds in the burger-work pimping b…

Yes in some ideal environment a sex worker and a pimp could have a mutually beneficial relationship. But that is not why pimping is looked down upon. And you made no honest attempt to address the issues that exist in practice.

Re: The Internet Is for Porn

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Post by morelisp »

Avicebron wrote: post #67
alisonkisk wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are selling pictures of their body. The body gets nearly no wear and tear for the work. There's only negative presence in the sense of haters. Would you also encourage young people to avoid being Black, or Muslim, because that's a "negative presence"?

I'm confused as to why being black or muslim would be a "negative presence"...

In the context of

> doesn't help their future career aspirations

it fits perfectly (unfortunately).

Re: The Internet Is for Porn

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Post by jejejfjf »

neartheplain wrote: post #8

Porn isn't going anywhere. The oldest known depiction of a human figure is pornographic [0]. Since porn will always exist, better that it be produced and consumed in the open, legally speaking. Sex workers deserve the same safety and labor protections as the rest of us. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_of_Hohle_Fels

Jesus, you've got to be kidding me. Are you going to tell me that the "Birth of Venus" is also "pornographic"? Besides, whatever porn may have existed 1000 years ago, internet porn is a completely different thing, and should not even be compared.

Re: The Internet Is for Porn

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Post by morelisp »

waihtis wrote: post #90
hoytschermerhrn wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The title is a nod to this famous Broadway play: https://youtu.be/zBDCq6Q8k2E

Makes more sense now. Without context it just sounds click-baity.

> Without context

The song from the musical is embedded as a video in the article.

Re: The Internet Is for Porn

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Post by kstenerud »

The problem is that these are American companies. And unlike the credit card companies who've been around for decades, they haven't yet had much international experience, so they're still in the American habit of enforcing their moral code as part of their product. Once they've had a decade or so to mellow out, we'll see a lot less punishment of people who don't match their moral ideals.
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