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Setting up your own Nextcloud instance to get off of Google

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Re: Setting up your own Nextcloud instance to get off of Google

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Oracle Cloud has the best Compute/VM Always Free Tier around (2x 1G RAM/50G VMs), which is likely sufficient for a small matrix/synapse server, so realistically you could do it for zero. I don’t know how much network transfer is included in their free tier, however (I’ve looked but never seen it clearly stated anywhere).

Switching from Google Products to hosting parallel products in Oracle Cloud is basically the same as one step forwards, two steps back.

It’s not switching from Google to Oracle. It’s just a place to spin up your own vm/instance, and for very little. You are conflating services.

Re: Setting up your own Nextcloud instance to get off of Google

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I had a few instances of OwnCloud and various NAS setups over the years. Then I had a kid and dumped everything into iCloud when I realized I’d no longer have time to keep it all secure/patched. Time cost of these setups is real.

I hear your point (2 young kids) and there’s plenty of things I’ve done that with, but this isn’t one of them. I have a Synology NAS and probably spend less than 5 mins a month on it.

Re: Setting up your own Nextcloud instance to get off of Google

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I'm glad some of yall are mentioning cost. These articles while awesome usually don't mention the cost to operate and support such endeavors. I would like to host my own Matrix instance, but I have no idea what the cost would be monthly.

As an alternative to all the US products being suggested, let me suggest an EU alternative: Contabo. Their cheapest offering (€4/month including tax) is more than enough for even the heavy web applications and their lowest storage tier will net you 300GiB to play with. The big downside is that networking is limited to 100Mbps, but for casual use that's not that big a deal in practice. That's plenty for a NextCloud in…

I've been using them for some random projects and they have been pretty decent for the price.

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That's really reassuring to hear! I'm planning to stick with this for a year or two to see what pain it actually causes me, but I could definitely see maintenance headaches being thing to motivate a switch to something else. Hopefully I have the same experience as you, though!

To be fair... I think the learning curve causes higher maintenance time cost at the beginning. But eventually you get stable infrastructure as code set up with good log monitoring and backups and you really don't have to think about it anymore. Any problems and you'll get an alert.

The infrastructure might be stable now, but could break with an update.

Re: Setting up your own Nextcloud instance to get off of Google

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>The one thing really keeping me from getting off Google is YouTube. For everything else there are good alternatives. But YouTube really is the only viable player in the online video game. The thing I hate most is ads. And YouTube (unless you pay them) gets ever more aggressive with showing ads. The pre-roll ads are bad enough, but interrupting a playing video with a couple of ads (as happened to me the other day) is…

It's usually the content creator who chooses how many ads run in a video and where they appear. I can't really blame them for putting in enough ads to make a living off of it. And nobody is forcing you to watch the ads -- you can get rid of them for $12/mo. Or are you saying that you expect people to produce quality content for you for free?

>And nobody is forcing you to watch the ads -- you can get rid of them for $12/mo. Or are you saying that you expect people to produce quality content for you for free?

They are not. And I generally don't. In fact, I rarely watch YouTube. When I do, it's generally to find a specific song or video clip (both usually decades old) to forward along to someone else.

In those situations, I would be shocked if the "owner" of the content (the YT channel owner) had actually paid license fees to the actual copyright owner.

As for paying $12/month to get rid of ads, that seems an awful lot like a protection racket. "It'd be a real shame if you had to waste all that time watching ads. We don't care about the money, we just want to help you make your viewing experience better."

Given that the video in question[0] wasn't actually created (or even directly licensed) by the owner of the YT channel, your point is moot for that particular piece of content.

As for actual content creators, I absolutely believe they should be fairly compensated for their work.

However, simply repackaging the work of others isn't "content creation."

Regardless, I make every effort to shun all platforms that attempt to show me ads. That's my choice. Because I don't care to be presented with a bunch of garbage or pay the same people who profit from it to not see such crap.

If there's something I want, I'll buy (not stream or rent or license) it.

There's far too much of that going on and I refuse to support it. If I buy music or a phone or a car or a tractor or seed or anything else, I should be able to use it as I see fit, without restriction, data exfiltration or a bunch of scum trying to sell me stuff.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va8Uz6MoKLg

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That page seems focused on the file storage aspect. Does Storage Share also include other Nextcloud features like calendar?

Yes, I'm also using Hetzner and have not run into any limits in what plugins you can install and use yet. They used to call 'storage share' just 'Nextcloud', but moved it to the new name for licensing reasons. I don't know what type of hardware they're running their Nextcloud instances on, but I've been using calendar/contacts and public file sharing (since Firefox Send went down) on the cheapest plan for a while now…

I noticed the Storage Share page doesn't mention anything about server-side encryption - is this an option?

Re: Setting up your own Nextcloud instance to get off of Google

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I recommend NethServer or YunoHost which can install nextcloud as a module, along with many other services, and can be easily updated with security patches. Freedombox may become a contender some day too.

Its one thing to set it up, and it's another thing to keep it running stable and secure.

Re: Setting up your own Nextcloud instance to get off of Google

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I would suggest Hetzner's storage share (their managed Nextcloud hosting) [1]. Their pricing starts at €2.90/mo for 100GB of storage, which is significantly cheaper than what is mentioned in the post ($5/mo for 25GB). [1] https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-share

Wasabi is likely even cheaper at $6 a month for 1000 GB (minimum) [0] and free egress to go with it (similar plans from Backblaze too [1]).

Scaleway is pretty impressive with its pricing too with 75 GB (storage + egress) free per month [2]

[0] https://wasabi.com/cloud-storage-pricing/#three-info

[1] https://www.backblaze.com/b2/cloud-storage-pricing.html

[2] https://www.scaleway.com/en/object-storage/

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Does anybody have a good recommendation for an automated Gmail backup? I am happy using Gmail for now, I just want my own copy of all of my emails that I can search and read - offline if necessary. I tried to use Nextcloud's email app to backup my gmail, but after sending it up I realized that it is just an alternate interface to access email on Google's server, not a proper backup solution. (It only supports IMAP, n…

https://github.com/jay0lee/got-your-back Got Your Back (GYB) is a command line tool for backing up your Gmail messages to your computer using Gmail's API over HTTPS.

Cool, I'll check it out. Thanks!

Re: Setting up your own Nextcloud instance to get off of Google

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Has anyone setup/used multi user calendaring and contacts on NextCloud? Currently considering this vs. a few standalone docker instances for calendars/contacts for one of my downtime projects over the next few weeks...

Yes, it works well. I moved all my contacts and calendaring from Gmail to a self-hosted Nextcloud instance about two years ago. My wife and I have a calendars in common, both of which are set up as the default calendars on our mobile devices. We recently discussed having a shared address book too. Shouldn't be any trouble to set up. One of us will own it, farm out r/w access to the other, and we'll transfer contacts…

I've been thinking of switching to my gmail calendar and contacts to nextcloud. But I've been wondering what you then do about contacts you email. Do you somehow keep gmail in sync with the nextcloud contacts?
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