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Re: Why Microsoft bought Skype

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Good point. SAP is an order of magnitude bigger than Skype but the point about getting into this space if they're serious about getting into a different space is a good one. Netsuite, intuit & salesforce are trading @ $2.3b, $16.75b & $17.9b. They could conceivably buy all three with just this 'overseas cash' they supposedly need to spend and still have change. Thinking about MS's available cash in terms of companies…

According to this article, Microsoft are sitting on a $50bn (!) pile of cash, $42bn of which is located ouside the US: http://blogs.forbes.com/ericsavitz/2011/05/10/microsoft-with... They could do nearly six Skype-sized deals, just using cash (without issuing bonds or using stock!) Incredible. They could probably buy SAP, but their cash pile would be gone, plus they would have to give up a significant amount of stock…

Apple has $43bn right now.

http://www.investorplace.com/33461/apple-inc-nasdaq-aapl-cas...

Re: Why Microsoft bought Skype

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I've waved the "What did Microsoft ever invent?" flag plenty in my life, so let me try and advocate for the devil: Microsoft basically invented the hardware-agnostic software platform. Before Microsoft, there were a variety of hardware platforms, each with their own libraries and languages... not unlike the situation today with phones. Developers had to choose what to target... not only Mac vs PC, but different video…

> Microsoft basically invented the hardware-agnostic software platform Digital Research did that. You could run a CP/M program on any CP/M-capable computer. Microsoft tried that with MSX (and failed) and then with MS-DOS (and succeeded on a different hardware platform). Only then, different graphics cards and printers became relevant. > Other than that, I don't think Microsoft invented much Visual Basic is one thing…

To be more precise, MS-DOS (and 86-DOS before that) tried to copy CP/M on that area (the original platform for SCP 86-DOS which MS bought and renamed MS-DOS was SCP's S-100 8086 cards which existed before the IBM PC), but MS bought SCP in the first place because they needed an OS to sell to IBM for their 8088-based PC, and so of course it first shipped on the IBM PC, and what happened was that the DOS calls was too limited and slow, so apps used the BIOS and even direct hardware access. So in the US full IBM PC hardware and BIOS compatiblity ended up being needed. (In Japan it was a different story)

Re: Why Microsoft bought Skype

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It should be the default understanding that what someone says and writes is their opinion. Not having that as the default is how we ended up with the terrible popular style "in my opinion it could be argued that for some people it is mostly better if they XYZ, where possible (consult your doctor)". NB, when I say it's a terrible style, that's my opinion, not a universal truth or peer reviewed fact cited in a publishe…

I'm not so sure. I agree that weasel words can destroy a piece of writing, but a complete lack of them can come off badly too. The main effect of killing the qualifiers in your writing is increasing the confidence in the tone of the piece. Obviously, we all have different levels of confidence in our many different opinions, and if you stop using qualifiers all together, you lose the ability to distinguish between dif…

I like your point that the author can assign different levels of confidence to different parts of their writing, but the reader shouldn't automatically mistake the confident sections for facts and the unconfident sections for falsehoods, that seems to be conflating two signals into one.

When you qualify your opinions, you signal that you are more willing to discuss that point. Speaking with complete surety can shut down a comment thread or turn it more antagonistic.

OK, I can see that happening.

Re: Why Microsoft bought Skype

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> Apple is not the next anything because the role it aspires to transcends anything imaginable by Microsoft, ever. Really? Both are publicly traded companies whose role is to make money for shareholders. I don't see how it's possible to transcend this.

In related news Einstein failed to transcend homo sapien

Re: Why Microsoft bought Skype

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Microsoft basically invented the hardware-agnostic software platform I'm trying hard to understand what you're talking about and its not working. Windows has run on the "PC clone" for almost its entire existence. IBM pioneered the original PC as a fairly easily clone-able platform, meaning it wasn't hard to reverse engineer the bios. It was one hardware platform, one hardware standard, that multiple manufacturers cou…

I think you're too focused on looking at it from a technical perspective. I think what erikpukinskis is referring to is "hardware-agnostic software platform" as a business model/industry environment. Maybe IBM did invent that, but it was accidental. I'm not sure they did though, I think MS did.

If you said "based on standardized, commodity hardware-based" instead of "hardware agnostic", I'd agree.

I mean java was an effort to hardware agnostic. Windows, not-so-much. It supports versions of the "PC Standard". That's it.

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