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Re: SwiftUI tutorials rewritten completely

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Post by coldtea »

pjmlp wrote: post #44
keyle wrote: post #27

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I wish Jetbrains could do what they did with .NET which is Resharper. A plugin for Visual Studio that brought IntelliJ like features and smartness to it. It was a breeze. Unfortunately I don't think XCode is built to handle third party vendors plugins and it never will (which is why Appcode exists in the first place).

My Visual Studio is an happy boy without Resharper bloat, never got the point of it.

Maybe, but people say similar things for e.g. using Vim over an IDE too, though...

Re: SwiftUI tutorials rewritten completely

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Post by jamil7 »

bsaul wrote: post #84
yoz-y wrote: post #79

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If you only target iOS for example it's a no brainer. There are use cases where you absolutely have to use it, those are currently Home Screen widgets and WatchOS Apps + complications. I would not be surprised if more SwiftUI-only use cases were progressively added. SwiftUI is also cross-platform, in Apple ecosystem. That is, you can develop all of your components and have them work on iOS and macOS. Then glue them t…

"cross-platform, in Apple ecosystem". Please, let's not gobble that crappy apple PR spin on what that term means. Cross-platform never meant "just an iphone and a mac os with the correct version". SwiftUI looks like a very cool tech, but it isn't "cross-platform", period.

> Cross-platform never meant "just an iphone and a mac os with the correct version". SwiftUI looks like a very cool tech, but it isn't "cross-platform", period.

It might be crappy marketing spin but it's hard to call anything other than the web cross-platform by that definition. It's not just iPhone and a Mac either, it's every Apple platform that has a screen. I don't think Flutter or React Native can claim that despite being called cross-platform.

Re: SwiftUI tutorials rewritten completely

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Post by dmitryminkovsky »

Grustaf wrote: post #66
dmitryminkovsky wrote: post #22

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Me too. I don’t understand how they release an IDE without Vim emulation or some support for plugins that enable Vim emulation. It’s quite miserable. Last time I checked you had to root the app to install a Vim extension.

So weird. I guess it might be because 99.9% of swift developers want as little vim as possible in their lives.

What’s the connection between swift and Vim? Why would they be anti-Vim?

Re: SwiftUI tutorials rewritten completely

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Post by maigret »

ksec wrote: post #83
dep_b wrote: post #53

So far dealing with stuff like PayKit SwiftUI integration still feels really bad. There's just tons of stuff expecting UIKit and it will take a while before all of that stuff is ported. SwiftUI is really great, Combine can be hard to get into for people not initiated in Reactive and generally it's as fast to build stuff in as Flutter without dealing with the tragedy called Dart.

I sometimes wonder why do we continue to get macOS update. Were any of those "user" features really better? I wish they spend more time looking into Xcode, developer documentation etc. And it is 25M developers at $99 a year. That is $2.5B. And it is looking less than $10M a year investment into Xcode.

For context: I remember hearing the paying developers are a very little fraction of the 25M. I don't pay for it, and I know many people who just created an account to play with the beta releases. I don't think I know anyone who pays the $99. You don't even need to pay this when your app is free. https://developer.apple.com/programs/how-it-works/

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Post by schroffl »

lenkite wrote: post #31

Is SwiftUI just an abstraction over AppKit and UIKit ? Does it bring any widgets of its own - ie something native to SwiftUI as opposed to being wrapped ? (apart from the declarative stuff)

I asked a similar question on StackOverflow recently.

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/64049757/are-swiftui-com...

Re: SwiftUI tutorials rewritten completely

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Post by nhojb »

torarnv wrote: post #86
extraduder_ire wrote: post #58

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>They should have some way of showing what docs have been updated Back when I used wrote iOS crap, I used dash as a quick reference for APIs.That was pretty good at alerting me to documentation changes, since it has to download an update. https://kapeli.com/dash I only started using it (never did buy it) because I was used to using zeal, a free-software alternative. https://zealdocs.org/

I like Dash, I bought it. But unfortunately the version upgrade from 4 to 5 introduced some mandatory UI changes that made documentation lookup much more cumbersome. Looking up a function now takes several user interaction steps, instead of just one in Dash 4. I'm still on version 4. If anyone have alternatives, I'm all ears.

Yeah, I feel the same way about Dash 5. Eventually had to upgrade to 5 when 4 became incompatible with the latest Apple docets. But I much preferred the Dash 4 search.

Re: SwiftUI tutorials rewritten completely

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Post by Razengan »

mathewsanders wrote: post #96

It’s pretty cool that from the very first step that they are introducing how to use accessibility modifiers to improve support for voice over.

SwiftUI’s support for accessibility is pretty amazing, way ahead of any other framework I know of and takes minimal effort to adopt too from the examples I saw at WWDC.
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