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YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

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Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

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Post by whateveracct »

thursday0987 wrote: post #80
whateveracct wrote: post #70

HNers really are clowns - there's a chorus of people acting like this is oppression. When the most powerful people in the United States are constantly spreading lies to destabilize the fundamentals of the country for years to come. Downvote me all you want - it's just proof that SV is full of assclowns. Such a shame that I probably work with some of you idiots.

The state of Texas is suing other states in the supreme court and alledging fraud. Youtube's new policy basically is saying that the state of Texas is not allowed to discuss the supreme court case on their platform.

If you report on the state of Texas alleging fraud, that's fine I believe. But if your video alleges it, you will be taken down. Big difference.

This election fraud nonsense is social contagion.

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

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Post by hnracer »

devrand wrote: post #78
guscost wrote: post #65

YouTube staff is a gang of bullies, and they are pushing our country toward civil war. “The First Amendment is first for a reason. Second Amendment is just in case the First one doesn’t work out.” - Dave Chappelle

How is the First Amendment in any way related to YouTube?

It's the spirit of the First Amendment that people are concerned about wrt silencing of particular perspectives. Of course YT is privately owned so the First Amendment doesn't literally apply.

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

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Post by gameswithgo »

ryaan_anthony wrote: post #75

So who decides what is true/accurate? Is this action just related to the current election or will this extend to other "fake news" and elections in other countries? Covid news comes to mind.

Youtube does. They pay for the servers, and thus any sensible person who believes in capitalism and freedom of speech would support that they get to decide what content goes on their servers.

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

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Post by adwn »

whateveracct wrote: post #70

HNers really are clowns - there's a chorus of people acting like this is oppression. When the most powerful people in the United States are constantly spreading lies to destabilize the fundamentals of the country for years to come. Downvote me all you want - it's just proof that SV is full of assclowns. Such a shame that I probably work with some of you idiots.

For what it's worth, I downvoted you for the tone of your post, and for the allegation that I live in in Silicon Valley ("[...] proof that SV is full of assclowns"), when I don't even live in the US.

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

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Post by mattnewton »

swiley wrote: post #61

If Google wanted to be responsible they would remove videos covering the election in any way. If there had actually been widespread fraud is this something we would want Google doing? They have said themselves that they intend to manipulate elections in the US and this is exactly how they would do it.

>> ... is this something we would want Google doing? They have said themselves that they intend to manipulate elections in the US and this is exactly how they would do it.

??

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

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Post by harikb »

PeterStuer wrote: post #64

Regardless of what you believe to be 'The Truth', has suppression or censorship ever worked to quench dissonance or convince skeptical people, again, whether right or wrong, that there really is 'nothing to see here'.

Society can only function if those with opposing views at least agree on ground rules to debate on. Unchecked expression of view with no option for rebuttal from the other side will only destroy society. We have cases were US Senate candidates don't even show up for pre-election debates.

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

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Post by watwut »

PeterStuer wrote: post #64

Regardless of what you believe to be 'The Truth', has suppression or censorship ever worked to quench dissonance or convince skeptical people, again, whether right or wrong, that there really is 'nothing to see here'.

I mean, historically it did worked. Suppresion actually works to suppress viewpoints. Just like with any power, violence tends to work too.

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

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Post by geek3point0 »

ryaan_anthony wrote: post #75

So who decides what is true/accurate? Is this action just related to the current election or will this extend to other "fake news" and elections in other countries? Covid news comes to mind.

They are not making a decision or "fact checking". We have seen where that goes. They have made a decision not to host content on the topic.

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

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Post by slowhand09 »

misnome wrote: post #76
PeterStuer wrote: post #64

Regardless of what you believe to be 'The Truth', has suppression or censorship ever worked to quench dissonance or convince skeptical people, again, whether right or wrong, that there really is 'nothing to see here'.

I doubt it, but it _might_ help prevent radicalisation of newer people by making it harder to randomly encounter.

...radicalizization meaning choosing to believe differently than you?

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

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Post by SkidanovAlex »

th0ma5 wrote: post #81
Pungsnigel wrote: post #67

Will this include all videos talking of the Russia collusion?

What? No. Factual videos are not what this is talking about.

Who decides that the videos in Russia are factual, while the videos in the US are not?
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