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Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

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They stop your gmail from receiving inbound emails if you don't pay to upgrade for storage [15gb]. Within 24 hours! I just reached that, and the first alert I see on my email [1] feels quite threatening. It's like I came home, and there's an unexpected eviction on the door. IMO, this is way worse that account inactivity. Who remembers that ever-increasing ticker on the gmail homepage that advertised "Your storage wit…

This is reasonable.

Delete some filter emails won't take you 10 minutes

Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

#93

so if I have registered MyChildsFullName @ gmail to prevent anyone else from taking it, I now need to make sure it gets at least one email every couple years to prevent them from deleting it before my child is old enough to use it?

Who are you trying to prevent from taking the handle? Seems like it's either a) adults - that have a legit use for it now, b) soon to be adults that will have a legit use for it sooner than your kid does.

It's a very unique name combination, no one else on earth would have a legitimate use for it. It's more a matter of just making sure I own and control it so I can give it to them later. I'm thinking more of a situation with spammers/scammers registering the address or something.

Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

#94
post #4

> "If you're over your storage limit for two years, Google may delete your content across Gmail, Drive and Photos," the company said. That's different from just deleting all your data because you're inactive. Which is it? Edit: it seems both. Here's the blog post (maybe this is a better link): https://blog.google/products/photos/storage-policy-update/

Curious if one would even receive the notification emails prior to content deletion.

Once you hit the 15gb limit, you stop receiving emails within 24 hours. 2 years is plenty time versus "Hey. You are out of storage. In 24 hours, we're cutting off communication." [1]

[1] https://imgur.com/a/fBrlu4t

Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

#95
post #68

The same happened to my old "...@hotmail.com" email, Microsoft deleted old childhood emails, still bitter about that. Per https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook_com/forum/oemail... , the limit is 365 days of inactivity.

I guess my deceased dad's email was deleted(hotmail). I found an old email address of his and was trying to get into it just to reconnect since he died when I was a child. I get shouldn't see other people's stuff but still... would have been interesting as it was in the early 2000's that he was around. Would have liked to see how his mind operated. Afterall he was a successful person (eg. operating a 60ft yacht for s…

My reaction in a similar situation was to rather preserve his privacy. I don't know that mailboxes should be made available to relatives after one dies.

Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

#96

The same happened to my old "...@hotmail.com" email, Microsoft deleted old childhood emails, still bitter about that. Per https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook_com/forum/oemail... , the limit is 365 days of inactivity.

In a weird way, it's kinda comforting that other people have felt this. I spent ten (!) years trying to recover my childhood e-mail address which got hacked when I was a kid (password was 1123456789, lol). It was only this year that I _finally_ got to a human support agent who could verify my ID and told me that the account was completely wiped.

It was a bittersweet moment, for sure.

Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

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The same happened to my old "...@hotmail.com" email, Microsoft deleted old childhood emails, still bitter about that. Per https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook_com/forum/oemail... , the limit is 365 days of inactivity.

Also a massive security hole. I needed to do a password reset on my old ebay account, but the hotmail account it was attached to was deleted, so I just created a new hotmail account with the same name, and reset my password. I've done this maybe three or four time, because I haven't used hotmail since high school, so they keep deleting it.

A lot of people also have password resets on gmail linked to their old hotmail accounts, so you can just re-create their old hotmail to hijack their current gmail.

Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

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post #3

I used to tell my relatives to use Google Photos, so we wouldn't all lose their photos. I no longer tell them to use Google Photos. Edit: Some of my relatives are growing old. There's a lot of talk of backups & storage. But none of that is going to preserve the digital memories we have shared, after they die. All the old URLs that have been shared will, not rot & wither, but one day just up and vanish. Up to the big…

I've always told my relatives to get a huge hard drive, backblaze for backup, and stick all their photos on their own computer. If they want to use the cloud for convenience that's fine, but if the service decides to cancel your account you should always have another place with your data. My wife currently has a 2TB nvme ssd in her Thinkpad laptop. Around 1TB of that is pictures and photos.

After losing two hard drives in the same week, I now consider cloud backup to be more reliable. I did eventually (a couple of years later) manage to fix one of the drives by freezing it, but for a while I thought I'd lost several years worth of photos. The rule around having data in at least 3 places is definitely a sound one.

Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

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post #95
post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess my deceased dad's email was deleted(hotmail). I found an old email address of his and was trying to get into it just to reconnect since he died when I was a child. I get shouldn't see other people's stuff but still... would have been interesting as it was in the early 2000's that he was around. Would have liked to see how his mind operated. Afterall he was a successful person (eg. operating a 60ft yacht for s…

My reaction in a similar situation was to rather preserve his privacy. I don't know that mailboxes should be made available to relatives after one dies.

Yeah and it could go both ways. You can try to get something out of it or also what if you're tied to their problems(eg. debt) that would suck. But yeah TL;DR I don't really remember my own father so would be nice to see more of what his life was like.

Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

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post #30

What's another good email provider? I am starting to feel really nervous about storing my life in Google. It's not that I wouldn't pay for these things...it's just that I worry one day I'll lose access and fall into the pit of "trying to get Google to help a single human regain access" that sounds horrible.

Backups and self-hosting! These threads keep coming up where [Cloud service] deletes someone's data, bans their account, or otherwise denies service suddenly, and someone always asks "What [other cloud service] should I utterly rely on?" Maybe the answer is to not rely on cloud services to store the only copy of something precious or important to you.

Any specific packages you recommend for setting up email?

I would think there is some docker container I can run in a VM and go about my business.

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