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Re: Monica: Personal CRM. Remember everything about your friends, family and etc.

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I have to mention that this is one of the top 3 tools in my personal stack. See some comments below regarding various things I saw in this thread. Stability: Been running it for 2+ years now (or is it 3+ already?), no problems whatsoever. I update when the mood strikes - never had to roll back because something wasn't working. Why: As someone who considers himself terrible at remembering things, this little piece of…

> There's a (repeating) notion in this thread that keeping up with people is somehow linked to how much you care about them. I care deeply about many people I meet, personally, but I don't think the two are necessarily correlated.

I wholeheartedly agree. There’s a similar resistance towards books like “How to win friends...”, like you’re a sleazy car salesman for trying to improve your social skills.

It’s like harping on people going to the gym and watching their diet for not being “naturally” fit.

Re: Monica: Personal CRM. Remember everything about your friends, family and etc.

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post #64

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I totally get this thinking, but I am oriented totally differently from you. I will forget my friend's birthdays, their kids names, their wife's names, things they've talked about recently, etc, etc. I have a terrible memory for this stuff. I'm not sure if it's just me being stubborn, but all of these things just feel very slippery to my mind. On the other end, I will remember in vibrant detail very trivial facts tha…

You won't forget the names when it matters. If you can't remember these basic details, it's a sign that person is not close enough to you for it to actually matter. Or, maybe you're like me and you just met the person five minutes ago. Either case is forgivable.

You won't forget directions when it matters.

If you can't remember how to get to a certain place without a navigation app, it's a sign that that place is not close enough to you for it to actaully matter.

I really do not understand people who cannot do without navigation to get home when they visited a friend for the first time.

Re: Monica: Personal CRM. Remember everything about your friends, family and etc.

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Yes! They also added CalDAV for birthdays and tasks. https://github.com/monicahq/monica/blob/master/docs/user/car...

That’s great to hear. Checking that page, I see that the sections for iOS is empty. Doing a quick search shows some iOS/Apple specific issues. Any idea if the CardDAV (and now CalDAV) implementations work with Contacts on Apple devices?

It does. I haven’t noticed anything major.

Re: Monica: Personal CRM. Remember everything about your friends, family and etc.

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Technically Facebook is a personal CRM.

They called out how this differs from Facebook pretty clearly https://github.com/monicahq/monica#who-is-it-for

You're right, but for a normal person Facebook meets the needs and that too without the hassle the details of contacts updated.

Re: Monica: Personal CRM. Remember everything about your friends, family and etc.

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I'd love something like this packaged as an offline only desktop app. I can't trust any third party to protect such personal data about myself and the people I care about. I suppose there's the option of self-hosting and allowing only localhost...

So, once your super secure local app will remind you to contact a friend, how will you message them to exchange detailed personal stories? Gmail? Facebook?

Re: Monica: Personal CRM. Remember everything about your friends, family and etc.

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Offering this as a hosted instance is tantamount to conspiracy to enable identity theft, and worse. These things just shouldn't be chucked into someone's S3 bucket or SQL database.

No, let's sync it to Facebook/WhatsApp/Snapchat/Google, so we know our privacy will be invaded.

Re: Monica: Personal CRM. Remember everything about your friends, family and etc.

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post #95
post #17

I'd love something like this packaged as an offline only desktop app. I can't trust any third party to protect such personal data about myself and the people I care about. I suppose there's the option of self-hosting and allowing only localhost...

So, once your super secure local app will remind you to contact a friend, how will you message them to exchange detailed personal stories? Gmail? Facebook?

What about Matrix? Ricochet? Signal?

This is a particularly bizarre rebuttal. Usually the answer to this kind of thing would be "well yes but we can only solve 1 problem at a time", but in this case it's not even that. There already are ways to contact people privately!

Re: Monica: Personal CRM. Remember everything about your friends, family and etc.

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post #79

I have to mention that this is one of the top 3 tools in my personal stack. See some comments below regarding various things I saw in this thread. Stability: Been running it for 2+ years now (or is it 3+ already?), no problems whatsoever. I update when the mood strikes - never had to roll back because something wasn't working. Why: As someone who considers himself terrible at remembering things, this little piece of…

I wonder what are another 2 tools in your stack?

Guessing something like NextCloud/Gitea.

Re: Monica: Personal CRM. Remember everything about your friends, family and etc.

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post #79

I have to mention that this is one of the top 3 tools in my personal stack. See some comments below regarding various things I saw in this thread. Stability: Been running it for 2+ years now (or is it 3+ already?), no problems whatsoever. I update when the mood strikes - never had to roll back because something wasn't working. Why: As someone who considers himself terrible at remembering things, this little piece of…

> Is that impersonal? Is it wrong in some way? It's my own very, very private way of keeping people in my life. I don't see it as not genuine or fake.

I agree with you, I do something like this on a much smaller scale to try and keep up with who I have and haven't spoken to recently. I have a lot going on and time seems to slip past me, I can easily go weeks without talking to people and it feel like no time at all. Making a deliberate effort to maintain those relationships doesn't seem like its fake to me.

Re: Monica: Personal CRM. Remember everything about your friends, family and etc.

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post #79

I have to mention that this is one of the top 3 tools in my personal stack. See some comments below regarding various things I saw in this thread. Stability: Been running it for 2+ years now (or is it 3+ already?), no problems whatsoever. I update when the mood strikes - never had to roll back because something wasn't working. Why: As someone who considers himself terrible at remembering things, this little piece of…

> There's a (repeating) notion in this thread that keeping up with people is somehow linked to how much you care about them. I care deeply about many people I meet, personally, but I don't think the two are necessarily correlated. I wholeheartedly agree. There’s a similar resistance towards books like “How to win friends...”, like you’re a sleazy car salesman for trying to improve your social skills. It’s like harpin…

I figured out how to deal with cognitive dissonance people are feeling about this years ago.

I would rather make a calendar invite / use and remember to call and feel bad about having to do that...

Then forget to call and feel worse about forgetting.

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