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Re: Amazon EC2 Mac Instances

#91
It seems like this directly ties back to Apple’s recent policy changes [0].

The details line up exactly, including:

- You must rent them for at least 24 hours at a time. - You must rent out one machine per end user.

I just feel sorry for all the smaller providers who have done this for years.

I wonder if this was Apple’s update prompting AWS, or AWS pushing Apple to make the change — or both.

[0]: https://blog.macstadium.com/blog/developers-big-sur-and-vind...

Re: Amazon EC2 Mac Instances

#92
post #27

MacOS AMI images, EBS disks, VPC networking, 10gbps ENA. Bare metal only, Intel available now, M1 coming soon. This is another game changer. The post says they’re based on Mac Minis, but also use AWS Nitro. Is this custom AWS specific hardware?

Over Thunderbolt: https://twitter.com/_msw_/status/1333629867171057664?s=21

Right. The Nitro cards speak PCIe, and Thunderbolt is “just” PCIe plus DP in one:

> Thunderbolt combines PCI Express (PCIe) and DisplayPort (DP) into two serial signals,[7][8] and additionally provides DC power, all in one cable.

From the Wikipedia entry at https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbolt_(interface)

Re: Amazon EC2 Mac Instances

#94
Given how M1 is technically impressive (not only CPU but also for Neural Engine), one can dream Apple will resurrect XServe with multi-socket later versions of their silicon.

This kind of performance with this kind of power efficiency would be game changer in data center.

Looking forward to Graviton3 as well.

Re: Amazon EC2 Mac Instances

#95
Interesting that they’ve mentioned M1 support. That makes me wonder if VMWare is going to get together with Apple and make a ESXi port to Apple Silicon, as the Mac Mini and Mac Pro were long standing on the HWL since they were the only rackable devices on the market legally allowed to virtualize macOS. I’m fairly certain that Apple used it internally for testing.

(AWS will probably at least attempt a port of their Nitro hypervisor to M1 as well, since it’d make the machines infinitely easier to manage at scale since Macs no longer have a NetBoot or Internet Recovery option).

Re: Amazon EC2 Mac Instances

#96
post #50

"The instances are launched as EC2 Dedicated Hosts with a minimum tenancy of 24 hours" These are just rentable Mac Minis, not VMs. This will have only one use case and that's for build servers. Unless anyone has scalable AppleScript jobs to run?

The 24 hours is dictated by new Big Sur EULA. https://9to5mac.com/2020/11/11/macos-big-sur-adds-leasing-te... From the new EULA (not just for Amazon, paraphrased by 9to5mac): * Apple software and hardware must be leased “in its entirety to and individual or organization” * A lease period must be “for a minimum period of twenty-four (24) consecutive hours” * Customers must now accept software agreements for all instal…

But the original post says they're not using Big Sur. The available OSes are Mojave and Catalina. Unless that term exists in those licenses too?

Re: Amazon EC2 Mac Instances

#97
post #50

"The instances are launched as EC2 Dedicated Hosts with a minimum tenancy of 24 hours" These are just rentable Mac Minis, not VMs. This will have only one use case and that's for build servers. Unless anyone has scalable AppleScript jobs to run?

The 24 hours is dictated by new Big Sur EULA. https://9to5mac.com/2020/11/11/macos-big-sur-adds-leasing-te... From the new EULA (not just for Amazon, paraphrased by 9to5mac): * Apple software and hardware must be leased “in its entirety to and individual or organization” * A lease period must be “for a minimum period of twenty-four (24) consecutive hours” * Customers must now accept software agreements for all instal…

Weird limitation. Hopefully Apple updates this.

Re: Amazon EC2 Mac Instances

#98
post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In terms of "other people's computers" it seems to fit well. Nice to be able to build/CI test against macOS without having to provision and maintain apple hardware.

You can also run a MacOS VM in VirtualBox on Ubuntu. No Apple hardware needed. https://github.com/myspaghetti/macos-virtualbox

People pointing out that this may be against ToS. But that might not be the case depending on which country you're in.

Re: Amazon EC2 Mac Instances

#100
post #81
post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can also run a MacOS VM in VirtualBox on Ubuntu. No Apple hardware needed. https://github.com/myspaghetti/macos-virtualbox

It's against Apple's T&Cs, though. If you're doing it at home by yourself, who cares. But a company that's interested in automated testing etc. isn't going to see it as an answer.

Get an old old old Mac pro from ages ago. Upgrade its motherboard. Then upgrade its RAM. Then upgrade its hard drive. Then upgrade its power supply. It will still be an "Apple-branded computer" because of its case. It will just have received a bunch of upgrades. Big "haha" to them.

(Or if you're actually a corporation just buy a Mac.)

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