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Re: Ragya – Indian classical music played by time of the day

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Post by arunix »

fermienrico wrote: post #6

Here is my basic understanding of Indian music: The northern and southern parts have their own styles but with overlaps. What's amazing is that Indian classical music has no key. There is no absolute sense of middle C or whatever. It is relative to the tuning of the drone. I don't have a strong background in music, but this seems to get rid of the complexity of the notation system in the west with a much more fluid a…

> Is there any specific tabla percussion associated with a Raga?

No, percussion (meter) has it's own framework called Taala [1], which is orthogonal to Raaga.

As a concrete example: Raaga Hamsadhwani in Rupak Taala (7 beats) [2] vs Teental (16 beats) [3]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tala_(music)

[2] https://youtu.be/8YNveaC2ADc

[3] https://youtu.be/X1T1psiWer0

Re: Ragya – Indian classical music played by time of the day

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Post by altStoner »

biz_booster wrote: post #87

Some SERIOUS questions as this app looks like it is a commercial app created to earn money by playing tracks of the legendary musicians WITHOUT TAKING THEIR PERMISSION violating the legal, moral and ethical values. 1. Idea for this app is stolen from 8 prahar concert 2. Why we have to pay money when the SAME classical music is available freely on YouTube and other platforms? Just bcuz is playing under the app. 3. Is…

I don't know about the stolen idea but they have taken artists' permission. From The Hindu's article:

> The app features artistes such as Bhimsen Joshi, Satyasheel Deshpande, Sanjoy Bandopadhyay, Anuradha Kuber and Anupama Bhagwat. “We reached out to artistes who provided us with exclusive songs, some from private baithaks,” he says. Apart from that, he has also reached out to lesser-known artistes. “Most existing platforms chase established artistes, but there is no other platform apart from Youtube and Facebook for these yet new talents to be discovered.”

You don't have to necessarily pay money. It's a subscription app and there's a free version that you can enjoy with limited songs.

>India being a country of 1300 million people, only 5000+ has downloaded the app means Indians have totally rejected this app.

This is quite an absurd conclusion.

>Why non of musicians is promoting this app? something is drastically wrong with this app.

There's nothing wrong or shady about this product. Marico boss Harsh Mariwala had recommended this app to someone on Twitter. Apart from that, in my opinion, Indian classical music is nothing like your mainstream pop music where you'd expect the singer to jump and promote their app on instagram or tiktok. Classical music is much more than money or fame.

Re: Ragya – Indian classical music played by time of the day

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Post by biz_booster »

altStoner wrote: post #92
biz_booster wrote: post #87

Some SERIOUS questions as this app looks like it is a commercial app created to earn money by playing tracks of the legendary musicians WITHOUT TAKING THEIR PERMISSION violating the legal, moral and ethical values. 1. Idea for this app is stolen from 8 prahar concert 2. Why we have to pay money when the SAME classical music is available freely on YouTube and other platforms? Just bcuz is playing under the app. 3. Is…

I don't know about the stolen idea but they have taken artists' permission. From The Hindu's article: > The app features artistes such as Bhimsen Joshi, Satyasheel Deshpande, Sanjoy Bandopadhyay, Anuradha Kuber and Anupama Bhagwat. “We reached out to artistes who provided us with exclusive songs, some from private baithaks,” he says. Apart from that, he has also reached out to lesser-known artistes. “Most existing pl…

Please do visit National Cultural Audiovisual Archives's website " http://ncaa.gov.in/repository " for 10000+ hrs of unpublished, non-commercial Indian Classical Music recordings rather than paying for this commercial PAID app.

Twitter handle for daily videos - @NCAA_PMU

Re: Ragya – Indian classical music played by time of the day

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Post by biz_booster »

biz_booster wrote: post #87

Some SERIOUS questions as this app looks like it is a commercial app created to earn money by playing tracks of the legendary musicians WITHOUT TAKING THEIR PERMISSION violating the legal, moral and ethical values. 1. Idea for this app is stolen from 8 prahar concert 2. Why we have to pay money when the SAME classical music is available freely on YouTube and other platforms? Just bcuz is playing under the app. 3. Is…

8. Please do visit National Cultural Audiovisual Archives's website " http://ncaa.gov.in/repository " for 10000+ hrs of unpublished, non-commercial Indian Classical Music recordings rather than paying for this commercial PAID app.

Twitter handle for daily videos - @NCAA_PMU

Re: Ragya – Indian classical music played by time of the day

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Post by [deleted] »

snickell wrote: post #70
jariel wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So that's some valiant rhetoric, but I don't think you've made the case. There are dozens of scales within 'Western Music' and there's many musical variants which allow 'notes in between'. Stringed instruments easily allow for the variation in chord intervals as you've mentioned, yet they're generally not used in the manner you've described, because I don't think that's the tradeoff being made. ("holding a base note,…

A perfect fifth is the only chord in the equal tempered scale which is very close to a simple (small prime factors in the ratio) just intonation, they're only like 0.25% different. Not surprisingly, its one of the most common chord components in modern ET to hold for long periods. An equal tempered perfect fifth really close to a 3:2 ratio "just fifth". On ET, /all/ the major thirds express exactly the same ratio, as…

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Re: Ragya – Indian classical music played by time of the day

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Post by InnerGargoyle »

biz_booster wrote: post #94
altStoner wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know about the stolen idea but they have taken artists' permission. From The Hindu's article: > The app features artistes such as Bhimsen Joshi, Satyasheel Deshpande, Sanjoy Bandopadhyay, Anuradha Kuber and Anupama Bhagwat. “We reached out to artistes who provided us with exclusive songs, some from private baithaks,” he says. Apart from that, he has also reached out to lesser-known artistes. “Most existing pl…

Please do visit National Cultural Audiovisual Archives's website " http://ncaa.gov.in/repository " for 10000+ hrs of unpublished, non-commercial Indian Classical Music recordings rather than paying for this commercial PAID app. Twitter handle for daily videos - @NCAA_PMU

oh wow thanks for this link.
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