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Pfizer submits Covid vaccine to FDA for approval, to distribute in December

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Re: Pfizer submits Covid vaccine to FDA for approval, to distribute in December

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Post by draw_down »

refurb wrote: post #61
gvv wrote: post #29

Well just like I don't immediately update to the latest OS I think I'll wait for the beta testing to happen :)

As someone who has some experience with clinical trials and drug approvals, I'd be quite comfortable taking the vaccine. A clinical trial size of 40,000 (20,000 receiving the vaccine) is way larger than a lot of other drugs that people are comfortable taking. Is there zero risk of serious side effects? Of course not, there never is. But the trial gives enough data to say the risk is worth the benefit. Edit: The FDA h…

Nine women can’t make a baby in one month. I think the time dimension matters here.

Re: Pfizer submits Covid vaccine to FDA for approval, to distribute in December

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Post by White_Wolf »

iakh wrote: post #79
lmilcin wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, I wouldn't be so happy. Think about it. Out of million people only small percentage would become infected with covid and of that, only small percentage would die. On the other hand, vaccine must be distributed to everybody. Alternatively to people who, by occupation, have to contact many other people, daily. We don't know yet if there are complications from the vaccine. It is not possible to judge long term eff…

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If it's the same as all of them then should we expect the same consequences as the N1H1 vaccine in 2009/2010?

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/history/narcoleps...

Re: Pfizer submits Covid vaccine to FDA for approval, to distribute in December

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Post by unown »

superfx wrote: post #21

Anyone know why China is not on the list of countries in which Pfizer is seeking regulatory approval?

Perhaps because the Chinese company "Fosun Pharmaceutical", as the other sponsor[1] of this vaccine, is the one which has the right to distribute it in China?

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BNT162b2#Funding

Re: Pfizer submits Covid vaccine to FDA for approval, to distribute in December

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Post by raptor99 »

chadash wrote: post #43
qwerty456127 wrote: post #16

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Despite being extremely pro-vac I'm going to postpone getting vaccinated with this for as long as possible (at least a couple of years hopefully). Even if they would disallow me to travel abroad I would rather stay in my home country. I've heard about a guy who volunteered to try the Russian vaccine - he got extremely sick and almost died from inflammatory cardiomyopathy as the result. So I want to see thousands of p…

I heard about several guys who died or were seriously injured by Covid. I know a few of them personally. Pick your poison.

I know what you mean. I know several people who died or were seriously injured by cars. I don't go near them anymore.

Re: Pfizer submits Covid vaccine to FDA for approval, to distribute in December

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Post by FiberBundle »

refurb wrote: post #61
gvv wrote: post #29

Well just like I don't immediately update to the latest OS I think I'll wait for the beta testing to happen :)

As someone who has some experience with clinical trials and drug approvals, I'd be quite comfortable taking the vaccine. A clinical trial size of 40,000 (20,000 receiving the vaccine) is way larger than a lot of other drugs that people are comfortable taking. Is there zero risk of serious side effects? Of course not, there never is. But the trial gives enough data to say the risk is worth the benefit. Edit: The FDA h…

These are all short-term studies. Given that this is a completely new type of vaccine, a certain amount of scepticism about its long-term effects is warranted in my opinion. Personally I fail to see what benefits non-vulnerable people have from immediately being vaccinated.

Re: Pfizer submits Covid vaccine to FDA for approval, to distribute in December

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Post by refurb »

xiphias2 wrote: post #89
refurb wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who has some experience with clinical trials and drug approvals, I'd be quite comfortable taking the vaccine. A clinical trial size of 40,000 (20,000 receiving the vaccine) is way larger than a lot of other drugs that people are comfortable taking. Is there zero risk of serious side effects? Of course not, there never is. But the trial gives enough data to say the risk is worth the benefit. Edit: The FDA h…

It also depends on the known safety profile. With AstraZeneca some people already have to take pain medications after taking the vaccine...I wouldn't be comfortable putting using that vaccine without much wider testing. Fortunately I don't need to though, because soon we'll probably have 2 great vaccines to choose from.

Taking OTC pain relief medicines after a vaccine is not that unusual, either for pain or fever. Ask any parent who has gone through a vaccine series with their kid.

And I can remember getting my tetanus booster in secondary school and when I rolled over in my sleep waking up because my shoulder was so swollen and painful.

I'm not dismissing the fact that the vaccines might cause serious side effects. In fact, it's expected that some very small percentage will. But for the vast majority of patients, the Pfizer vaccine has a similar safety profile to other approved vaccines.

Re: Pfizer submits Covid vaccine to FDA for approval, to distribute in December

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Post by ghaff »

solarhoma wrote: post #44
gvv wrote: post #29

Well just like I don't immediately update to the latest OS I think I'll wait for the beta testing to happen :)

Do you think private companies will require vaccination to return to work? *Here is an article I found on the subject. Essentially stating in general employers could require vaccination. https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2020/08/26/coronavirus-...

I fully expect that once it is widely available (major caveat), many workplaces and schools will require it absent medical exceptions. Certainly, most schools require vaccinations today and I don't expect there will be a lot of sympathy for those that want to hold off.

Re: Pfizer submits Covid vaccine to FDA for approval, to distribute in December

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Post by ceejayoz »

tomohawk wrote: post #87

Thanks to Operation Warp Speed, the first 100m doses are paid for in the US, and at no cost. https://www.hhs.gov/coronavirus/explaining-operation-warp-sp...

No direct consumer-facing cost.

> HHS announced up to $1.95 billion in funds to Pfizer for the large-scale manufacturing and nationwide distribution of 100 million doses of their vaccine candidate.

It's a sensible use of taxpayer funds, for sure, but Pfizer isn't doing it as a charitable work.

Re: Pfizer submits Covid vaccine to FDA for approval, to distribute in December

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Post by DSingularity »

scrollaway wrote: post #4
DSingularity wrote: post #3

Does this feel rushed to anyone? Why don’t they stagger the release? Why jump from initial trials involving thousands to widespread distribution involving millions?

Is your question whether the research and release of a vaccine nearly the entire world has been tirelessly either working on or waiting for "feels rushed"? I mean, what did you expect?

I don’t know what I expected. I just feel that the timeline is unprecedented.

Re: Pfizer submits Covid vaccine to FDA for approval, to distribute in December

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Post by wonderwonder »

lmilcin wrote: post #88
iakh wrote: post #79

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Hey. I am not anti vaccine. Your comment is uninformed in that you did not read my comment with comprehension and that you don't understand what stupid stuff anti-vaxxers are serving. My kids are all vaccinated and so am I and I don't suggest to people to not vaccinate. I am just trying to cool down the too happy thinking that the vaccine is some magical tool that automatically causes problems to go away with no risk…

"the best decision is to let vaccinate everybody else but don't take vaccine yourself"

This is unfortunately exactly what anti-vaxxers do, they enjoy the benefits of herd immunity thanks to the vast majority of people getting vaccinated but spread negativity & doubt about the vaccine at the same time. The current Covid vaccines have had a very large testing group and been put through the same strict regulations as any other vaccine. The only reason there is chatter about not taking it is due to the current political / media climate.

"Remember, it is going to be pricey and many people will choose not to vaccinate for financial or other reasons"

What do you base this on?

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