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The Makeup of the CCP Elite

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Re: The Makeup of the CCP Elite

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Post by brundolf »

inquirerofsorts wrote: post #74
timwaagh wrote: post #73

So basically what it says is Xi is a non-traditional leader who hands all the positions to his friends and would rather let the leadership grow old and senile than promote a competent person, because old friends are not a threat.

> would rather let the leadership grow old and senile than promote a competent person Sounds a tad familiar? The US just elected the oldest President ever, who has spent decades in government. Honestly confused by Americans pretending they have anything that different to what the Chinese do. Bushes, Clintons, it's like you've all harked back to royal lines while pretending it's something else. It's truly terrifying t…

Biden himself is very old, but from what I've seen he's going to focus on installing competent people, many of them younger, instead of picking "old friends". Whereas Trump has spent his entire presidency ejecting competent people (usually because they "disagreed with him") and replacing them with his mostly-elderly buddies, many of whom aren't remotely qualified for the positions they've been handed. Rick Perry was the Secretary of Energy for goodnessake.

Re: The Makeup of the CCP Elite

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Post by dragonwriter »

inquirerofsorts wrote: post #74
timwaagh wrote: post #73

So basically what it says is Xi is a non-traditional leader who hands all the positions to his friends and would rather let the leadership grow old and senile than promote a competent person, because old friends are not a threat.

> would rather let the leadership grow old and senile than promote a competent person Sounds a tad familiar? The US just elected the oldest President ever, who has spent decades in government. Honestly confused by Americans pretending they have anything that different to what the Chinese do. Bushes, Clintons, it's like you've all harked back to royal lines while pretending it's something else. It's truly terrifying t…

> It's truly terrifying that democracies are electing older and older people across the board

Why? Despite short-term trends mostly connected to the opioid crisis, over the long term people are living longer and being mentally and physically functional longer, especially at the high tail of the distribution (and when you are talking about elected leaders, its a small group, not the bulk of the population.)

> they simply aren't capable of doing the job, everyone I know over 60 has highly diminished mental capacities

There is a very slight on-average decline of executive function with age past, IIRC, the early 30s. Healthy 60 year olds don't have "highly diminished mental capacities" as a rule, so if everyone you know over that age does, that tells more about who you know than it does about over 60 year olds.

> I know it's a harsh thing to say and I'm truly sorry to people of said demographic reading this stuff but it's a cold hard fact easily backed up by decades of science.

No, its not.

Re: The Makeup of the CCP Elite

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Post by dragonwriter »

alavesto wrote: post #75
inquirerofsorts wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> would rather let the leadership grow old and senile than promote a competent person Sounds a tad familiar? The US just elected the oldest President ever, who has spent decades in government. Honestly confused by Americans pretending they have anything that different to what the Chinese do. Bushes, Clintons, it's like you've all harked back to royal lines while pretending it's something else. It's truly terrifying t…

+1. Biden and Trump both sounded so much more intelligent in their younger days; I don't understand why we insist on only allowing people to lead our country when they're at their worst. And despite billing himself as the alternate to the dynastical system, Trump quickly used the presidency as a vehicle for advancing his family's careers. Biden did the exact same thing as vice president - you can tell me what Hunter…

> I don't understand why we insist on only allowing people to lead our country when they're at their worst.

Even if being, as the GP suggests, over 60 was "at their worst", we don't. Sure, Trump and Biden are unusually old for Presidents. The remainder of the most recent five elected Presidents, Clinton, Bush the Younger, and Obama, were all unusually young for Presidents -- Clinton (3rd youngest at inauguration) and Obama (5th youngest at inauguration) were both under 50 when they took office, W was under 55.

Re: The Makeup of the CCP Elite

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Post by blackrock »

arbuge wrote: post #9

> Among this powerful elite which include all Central Committee members and provincial standing committee members, the share of women has gone up from a dismal 7.6% to a still-dismal 8.4% from the 18th CC to the 19th CC. Among the post-62 cohort active in the 19th CC, only 11% of the elite are women. To be sure, as more cadres in the post-62 cohort enter the vice-provincial elite, the share of women may rise, but it…

It sounds like whatever white person wrote this will not be satisfied about anything done in China. Typical. They’re just grandstanding and projecting.

Meanwhile, the Republicans have mediocre percentages of women in their leadership group. And even worse, they have an even worse number of minorities in their entire group.

They claim to be the land of equality and freedom, but suspiciously, they don’t put minority people and women into leadership positions.

They don’t even try to be about equality and opportunity themselves, but yet, here they are trying to find fault with another country. Hypocrites.

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Post by blackrock »

oh_sigh wrote: post #57
chrisco255 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah we fought a big war over it 160 years ago. 600,000 people died.

I think it's kinda cute (but mostly sickening) that far left ideologues and far right ideologues can at least come together and agree that the Civil War was not actually about slavery (despite every fact contradicting that view).

I thought the Civil War was about States’ Rights.

The right for each State to decide to have slaves, and to classify black people as subhumans that must be whipped and lynched regularly.

Re: The Makeup of the CCP Elite

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Post by DangitBobby »

CapricornNoble wrote: post #86
DangitBobby wrote: post #85

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I'm more interested in the evidence he says he has than his statement. > I have extensive relevant records and communications and I intend to produce those items to both Committees in the immediate future. Where is this?

Here's some of it: https://apelbaum.wordpress.com/2020/11/02/the-biden-rat-year... Strange that the Cathay Bank wire transfer document has the amount redacted, of all things. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/breaking-evidence-b...

I feel kinda dumb right now because I don't really see a smoking gun here or I just don't understand what I'm looking at.

Re: The Makeup of the CCP Elite

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Post by chrisco255 »

sudosysgen wrote: post #88
oh_sigh wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's kinda cute (but mostly sickening) that far left ideologues and far right ideologues can at least come together and agree that the Civil War was not actually about slavery (despite every fact contradicting that view).

I don't know anyone on the left that thinks that the Civil War wasn't about slavery. That doesn't mean that they think that it wasn't just about slavery - because it wasn't just about slavery, and even less just about the moral issues of slavery. When people say that the US hasn't confronted its legacy of slavery and genocide, they mean things like personality cults of people that owned slaves, institutional racism -…

That's because the identification with the Confederacy is culturally aligned with traditional rural southerners. They're not pro-slavery. They simply have ancestors that are buried with a Confederate gravestone. The Civil War was the deadliest war in U.S. history. It rocked the South for 100 years. The South was completely wrecked, economically, so much so that the Great Depression was almost status quo for southerners. In the same way that we realize that World War II was indirectly caused by excessive sanctions on Germany after World War I, which caused a lot of spite and misery, the South had to endure a similar situation in post-war America.

It was about slavery for the elites. It wasn't about slavery for the poor rural southerners who died in the war. If you're curious, here's an interview with a veteran of the Civil War recorded in 1947: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfqIa4dDxrw&t=21s

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