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Re: Notion Timeline View

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I love the idea of Notion, and I love what the team is trying to do, and I love almost all of Notion. Unfortunately, it's too slow , at least for me. For a tool like that I need it to be a frictionless as possible, and Notion (for me!) is just a bit too annoying for me to put up with after extended usage. If you value features over snappiness, Notion may be great for you though. It's an amazing concept! And I certain…

I've ended up using Obsidian, since it saves its stuff as plain Markdown as opposed to Joplin's weird kitbash format...

...but the deeply ambiguous licensing info makes it a non-option for a lot of people.

Re: Notion Timeline View

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post #36

I love the idea of Notion, and I love what the team is trying to do, and I love almost all of Notion. Unfortunately, it's too slow , at least for me. For a tool like that I need it to be a frictionless as possible, and Notion (for me!) is just a bit too annoying for me to put up with after extended usage. If you value features over snappiness, Notion may be great for you though. It's an amazing concept! And I certain…

As someone who wants to replace a bunch of stuff in Jira with Notion I have never really perceived performance problems, but I guess it isn't the snappiest.

Jira is so awful that almost anything is faster than it anyway.

Re: Notion Timeline View

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post #54
post #36

I love the idea of Notion, and I love what the team is trying to do, and I love almost all of Notion. Unfortunately, it's too slow , at least for me. For a tool like that I need it to be a frictionless as possible, and Notion (for me!) is just a bit too annoying for me to put up with after extended usage. If you value features over snappiness, Notion may be great for you though. It's an amazing concept! And I certain…

I had no doubt the top few comments would be critical of the post as usual... but Joplin? I can't wrap my head around this one. I've used Joplin for years and I can't figure out how it would replace Notion.

I wasn't using Notion for it's collaboration features, but as a personal wiki/knowledgebase/note taking application.

Basically, I want an app I can run on my desktop and phone, I can shovel every random thought, link, idea, code snippet, etc. into it, and I can find it quickly.

Joplin does this. Notion does this. Notion also has a lot of other features Joplin does not, true, I just didn't care about any of them. :)

Re: Notion Timeline View

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Take a look at Portabella ( https://portabella.io ), we're not feature complete with Notion but making serious progress!

I actually will. Am also keeping an eye on https://anytype.io but I still haven't been drawn for their closed alpha grrrr

I looked at that for about five seconds, then closed the tab when I realized it was hijacking the scrolling and wouldn't let me just read stuff at a normal pace.

Re: Notion Timeline View

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post #36

I love the idea of Notion, and I love what the team is trying to do, and I love almost all of Notion. Unfortunately, it's too slow , at least for me. For a tool like that I need it to be a frictionless as possible, and Notion (for me!) is just a bit too annoying for me to put up with after extended usage. If you value features over snappiness, Notion may be great for you though. It's an amazing concept! And I certain…

Slack & notion make me close my eyes while typing, just because the delay between key press and pixels lighting up is so long that I get confused. It's like speaking with a 400ms or so echo of yourself being played back. Hugely distracting.

When writing longer things on either, I find myself firing up vim to copy paste afterwards, just because it's impossible to get into any kind of flow in these apps.

VS code also falls into this category by the way, albeit less severe.

For notion specifically, the total lack of keyboard navigation within a page (PgUp/PgDown, Space, Shift+Space, nothing works!) as well as the fact that wherever I click I will make immediate changes to the document (even if I just want to deselect some text or so) just makes the editing hugely frustrating, slow, and anxiety-inducing.

Seriously, if one day I wake up and write my boss that I'm outta here, notion and slack (and asana...) are way up there on the list of reasons.

Re: Notion Timeline View

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post #65
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I love the idea of Notion, and I love what the team is trying to do, and I love almost all of Notion. Unfortunately, it's too slow , at least for me. For a tool like that I need it to be a frictionless as possible, and Notion (for me!) is just a bit too annoying for me to put up with after extended usage. If you value features over snappiness, Notion may be great for you though. It's an amazing concept! And I certain…

I don't use notion, so I'm curious - what kind of slow? UI lag? Page load? API responses?

A bit of everything. Nothing is SUPER bad, it's just always, always a little slower than you'd expect/hope. UI lag and page load are the big ones. Not terrible, just...you can tell it's a big pile of JS written by a team that has prioritised features and graphical design over raw performance.

Re: Notion Timeline View

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post #36

I love the idea of Notion, and I love what the team is trying to do, and I love almost all of Notion. Unfortunately, it's too slow , at least for me. For a tool like that I need it to be a frictionless as possible, and Notion (for me!) is just a bit too annoying for me to put up with after extended usage. If you value features over snappiness, Notion may be great for you though. It's an amazing concept! And I certain…

I don't understand how Notion pages take 2+ seconds to load on 12-core machine with a gigabit connection. And you can't load multiple pages at once, it has to be in focus!

> And you can't load multiple pages at once, it has to be in focus!

Is that a new thing? I just noticed that bit yesterday. I often have to load multiple pages and this is such a flow breaker...

Re: Notion Timeline View

#100
post #91

Cool, so it's Microsoft Projects with emojis. /s

Exactly my first thought! 20+ years ago I had to write a bunch of VBScript that would generate Project files from Lotus Notes and Access data. (Ahh. Enterprise software at it's best!)

Timeline graphs are one of those things that look pretty in presos, loved by some execs and completely inaccurate the second they're created.

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