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MuditaOS: An open-source, e-ink mobile OS

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Re: MuditaOS: An open-source, e-ink mobile OS

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Post by secfirstmd »

pedalpete wrote: post #84
commonturtle wrote: post #74

I ask this with no malice: What makes people work on projects like this? I'm willing to bet that the phone is bound to fail and their OS will be doomed to obscurity. How do the creators not see this? Three reasons I don't think it will work out: 1. A huge number of people use WatsApp, Facetime, Messenger, etc., for sending messages and making calls. This OS won't support any of these apps. 2. We may hate our phones a…

I somewhat agree with your comment from the perspective of using e-ink as a replacement for mobile. However, I do think an opportunity exists for us to use e-ink device in new ways. I ordered a Boox Note Air on the weekend to replace my kindle (12 years old now) with something I can read and write on. The Boox runs full android OS, but I really think the only things I'll need are note-taking, drawing, kindle app. Is…

Interesting. Thanks for highlighting the Boox, I hadn't heard about it. I've been a Remarkable fan since their Kickstarter and it's good but the box has many more features it looks like - better app integration, better battery life, bigger storage etc

Re: MuditaOS: An open-source, e-ink mobile OS

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Post by wojtekidd »

tsar_nikolai wrote: post #11
black_puppydog wrote: post #6

A bit sad to see that you have to fill out a typeform to get access to the code. I'm sure if it is actually FOSS (GPL or MIT or such) then there will be public forks on gitlab or whatnot. Looks cool though. Might be viable to adapt to different screen sizes too? I know the remarkable is already hackable, but can't hurt to have competing UI concepts there, right ? :)

Source seems to be on GitHub in a private repo from this [0] account, according to this [1] image on the submission page [0] https://github.com/mudita [1] https://images.ctfassets.net/isxmxtc67n72/3tX0E1fLT8J9Twtao4...

The code is on GitHub and we will be letting people in batches to MuditaOS private repository. We're currently finishing working on documentation, CLA, etc. so that anybody who joins the repo will be able to start contributing as soon as possible.

This is happening on top of our day-to-day development activities so bear with us - we'll send out emails with next steps to all people interested soon.

For more info about the process and MuditaOS check out the blog post at https://mudita.com/community/blog/muditaos-goes-open-source-...

Re: MuditaOS: An open-source, e-ink mobile OS

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Post by wojtekidd »

CobaltFire wrote: post #49

Everyone in this thread is talking about how this is just a user space on Linux without RTFA. It uses the FreeRTOS kernel, which isn’t Linux last time I checked. Also, it specifies LTE in the specs. I think the GSM tethering is a mistype or mistranslation; I don’t see why they wouldn’t allow it to tether the LTE data.

Could you please point me to the source of "GSM tethering"? We'll try to fix this asap. Thank you!

Re: MuditaOS: An open-source, e-ink mobile OS

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Post by CobaltFire »

wojtekidd wrote: post #93
CobaltFire wrote: post #49

Everyone in this thread is talking about how this is just a user space on Linux without RTFA. It uses the FreeRTOS kernel, which isn’t Linux last time I checked. Also, it specifies LTE in the specs. I think the GSM tethering is a mistype or mistranslation; I don’t see why they wouldn’t allow it to tether the LTE data.

Could you please point me to the source of "GSM tethering"? We'll try to fix this asap. Thank you!

https://mudita.com/products/pure/

Under “Network”, “Pure as data modem”, Second Paragraph, Second Sentence:

“We decided to enable tethering via USB C cable so that Pure can be used as an external GSM modem.”

This implies a 3G connection, so I checked the specs. This phone is pretty close to exactly what I want, so I’m considering buying it for myself and my spouse.

Seriously considering purchasing a pair (this coming from someone who imported and ran two Nokia N9s for several years; I still miss that phone!); hope it’s everything it seems to be!

Re: MuditaOS: An open-source, e-ink mobile OS

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Post by AshamedCaptain »

microcolonel wrote: post #73
mjcohen wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the neat things about PalmOS is that it ran apps directly from where they were stored. No need to load them into "memory". I loved the stylus because it allowed apps to be quite functional (I remember EasyCalc which could do wonders) on a 160x160 screen. 320x320 meant that you could do anything.

> One of the neat things about PalmOS is that it ran apps directly from where they were stored. No need to load them into "memory". In practice this is not the way it worked on PalmOS on actual hardware past a certain point, and the way it actually worked is not that different from how code is loaded in a conventional desktop operating system.

What is called NVFS enters the picture so late in PalmOS story, and so few years before PalmOS hit the curb, that we can safely forget about it.

For most of PalmOS story, programs would for all intents and purposes be installed to RAM and reside entirely in RAM.

Re: MuditaOS: An open-source, e-ink mobile OS

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Post by commonturtle »

pedalpete wrote: post #84
commonturtle wrote: post #74

I ask this with no malice: What makes people work on projects like this? I'm willing to bet that the phone is bound to fail and their OS will be doomed to obscurity. How do the creators not see this? Three reasons I don't think it will work out: 1. A huge number of people use WatsApp, Facetime, Messenger, etc., for sending messages and making calls. This OS won't support any of these apps. 2. We may hate our phones a…

I somewhat agree with your comment from the perspective of using e-ink as a replacement for mobile. However, I do think an opportunity exists for us to use e-ink device in new ways. I ordered a Boox Note Air on the weekend to replace my kindle (12 years old now) with something I can read and write on. The Boox runs full android OS, but I really think the only things I'll need are note-taking, drawing, kindle app. Is…

Well, I am sympathetic to your point about the appeal of e-ink devices: great battery life, easier on the eyes, and lower costs. Things like the Kindle, the Remarkable tablet, or the Boox have great potential.

I'm just skeptical about an e-ink phone on a custom OS that doesn't support modern apps. Some apps may be unnecessary, but most users IMO expect to have things like GMail, WatsApp, Zoom, etc., on their phone.

Re: MuditaOS: An open-source, e-ink mobile OS

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Post by jack_riminton »

okanesen wrote: post #46
jack_riminton wrote: post #3

I do like the premise but I would've expected a few more specs; battery life? water and drop resistance? It's clear they've spent a lot of time on the form (over self-indulgently perhaps) but I hope it's not at the expense of function

I tried to look for it too and found it buried on a subpage[0], though the relevant information seems to be: * Battery: ~1600mAh * Water resistance: IP54 [0]: https://mudita.com/products/pure/specs/

Good find, thanks
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