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Re: GitHub Certifications (Beta)

#91

Post by ezoe » Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 11:34 AM UTC

I really don't understand those certificate business on computer related skills. It changes too rapidly and certificate of last year doesn't guarantee the current skill.

Anyway, I quickly glanced the sample exam questions.

https://github.com/certifications

> Which statements are true about GitHub Marketplace?

Honestly, I have never heard about the term GitHub Marketplace at all. Frankly, I don't want to relies on random proprietary SaaS apps somebody selling on random software distribution platforms.

> What is a workflow?

I don't know. Isn't it possible to (indirectly)achieve every candidates by GitHub Actions? Also, the term is used vague even by GitHub itself. The GitHub documents refer to flow or actions or whatever.

> Which statements are true about organizational membership

I don't know. Is reciting this knowledge helps on any way meaningful?

> How does GitHub alert you for security vulnerabilities?

How do I suppose to know that without getting any alert previosuly? By reading every GitHub documents and committing it to the brain?

Re: GitHub Certifications (Beta)

#92

Post by viraptor » Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 11:35 AM UTC

dheera wrote: post #58

lta wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When recruiting, I usually take certifications as a token of the lack of skills rather than a demonstration of skills

Exactly. If someone wants to demonstrate that they can use Github the best way is for their personal Github to be full of well-structured projects.

This gets repeated every time, but it's worth repeating: You've just discounted many skilled people working at companies which don't allow public personal projects, and people who are not interested in working on personal projects. There's a significant number of them.

Re: GitHub Certifications (Beta)

#93

Post by joshsyn » Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 11:38 AM UTC

Tf. I have avoided employers that required certifications and will continue to do so.

Re: GitHub Certifications (Beta)

#94

Post by viraptor » Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 11:40 AM UTC

ezoe wrote: post #91

I really don't understand those certificate business on computer related skills. It changes too rapidly and certificate of last year doesn't guarantee the current skill. Anyway, I quickly glanced the sample exam questions. https://github.com/certifications > Which statements are true about GitHub Marketplace? Honestly, I have never heard about the term GitHub Marketplace at all. Frankly, I don't want to relies on ran…

> It changes too rapidly and certificate of last year doesn't guarantee the current skill.

What product is there which both has a certificate and changes each year enough that the difference can't be covered in less than an hour of reading about the new features?

Re: GitHub Certifications (Beta)

#95

Post by BerislavLopac » Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 11:49 AM UTC

3131s wrote: post #84

trevyn wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Serious question: In which Asian countries is it a problem to directly discriminate?

What type of discrimination? In SEA I see "Male Only" on programmer jobs not that infrequently, plus very often age requirements explicitly stated for all sorts of jobs.

> age requirements

I'm curious: minimum or maximum?

Re: GitHub Certifications (Beta)

#96

Post by npteljes » Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 11:49 AM UTC

ezoe wrote: post #91

I really don't understand those certificate business on computer related skills. It changes too rapidly and certificate of last year doesn't guarantee the current skill. Anyway, I quickly glanced the sample exam questions. https://github.com/certifications > Which statements are true about GitHub Marketplace? Honestly, I have never heard about the term GitHub Marketplace at all. Frankly, I don't want to relies on ran…

>How do I suppose to know that without getting any alert previosuly? By reading every GitHub documents and committing it to the brain?

Isn't that how one normally prepares for an exam?

Re: GitHub Certifications (Beta)

#97

Post by swiley » Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 11:50 AM UTC

m12k wrote: post #34

breakingcups wrote: post #9

Ugh, this has Microsoft's playbook written all over it. Introduce a certification, thus increasing the gap between developers who (had their employee) pay Microsoft and developers that didn't. Conflate a generic concept (Git in this case) with Microsoft's specific implementation (Github), muddying the difference in managers' lexicons. Attempt to set Github as a standard to reach in everyone's mind. I mean there's a c…

Thank god most of the non-corporate software industry regards certifications as a way to pad a non-impressive resume and not something actually valuable.

Why is it certificates are viewed this way and degrees are not? Is it a class thing? Or are there really just no good certificates.

Re: GitHub Certifications (Beta)

#98

Post by 0xmohit » Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 11:58 AM UTC

purpleidea wrote: post #27

The main problematic thing about this is that it can be used as a way for Microsoft to push their beliefs and agendas. It further centralizes git even more. For example (extreme case to make a point), imagine if the questions were like: 1) Which is the most reliable git platform? (a) github (b) gitlab (c) gitweb 2) Which is the best license for new code? (a) MIT (b) GPLv3 (c) ALv2 3) Which is better for coding? (a) s…

4) Which is the best editor for writing code? (a) VS Code (b) VS (c) Notepad (d) Wordpad

Re: GitHub Certifications (Beta)

#99

Post by swiley » Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 12:02 PM UTC

3np wrote: post #31

purpleidea wrote: post #27

The main problematic thing about this is that it can be used as a way for Microsoft to push their beliefs and agendas. It further centralizes git even more. For example (extreme case to make a point), imagine if the questions were like: 1) Which is the most reliable git platform? (a) github (b) gitlab (c) gitweb 2) Which is the best license for new code? (a) MIT (b) GPLv3 (c) ALv2 3) Which is better for coding? (a) s…

Taking a look at the sample questions provided (questions and correct answers): Q4: Which licensing statement best describes a project to be truly open source? * it is recommended to choose a license because without it, the default copyright laws apply (technically correct but yeah) Q5: Which statements are true about GitHub Marketplace? * a digital catalog with hundreds of software listings from independent software…

> it is recommended to choose a license because without it, the default copyright laws apply

I think this is something even the FSF will tell people.

Re: GitHub Certifications (Beta)

#100

Post by swiley » Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 12:04 PM UTC

OJFord wrote: post #78

Dumb enterprisey 'certification' aside, I can see the free course being effectively used during onboarding (esp. intern/grads, but anyone can not have used GitHub or even git before, just because it's not what previous employer used) at which point being 'certified' becomes a handy 'get out of going through that again' card...

At least at the university I went to we had multiple classes that required using git and plenty of freshmen came in with at least a basic understanding.