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Re: YouTube bans coronavirus vaccine misinformation

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> And, while at it, also think how to thread the needle of keeping these platforms as less scammy etc. as possible, so that the people won't stop using the platforms. Why should anyone care about these platforms' engagement metrics? What about these platforms necessitates their survival? The assumption that Youtube is an unalloyed good for the world is a very controversial one.

People like them. They wouldn't survive if they didn't.

Like cancer?

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus vaccine misinformation

#92
The "slippery slope" is always a lazy argument w. little substance. It's easy to get induction wrong even in simple math problems let alone trying to pigeonhole humanity into tidy formula. The idea that the market will regulate itself because (... because what?) is also lazy. The bottom line is it really makes a great deal of sense to say,"hey, don't drink bleach," "hey, no Nazis on this platform please!", "hey, it's highly unlikely Hillary Clinton is a pedophile" - This is serious - this is real life and in good conscience we should all be supportive of this kind of "censorship" for the good of humanity.

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus vaccine misinformation

#93

This is the slippery slope of censorship on display for everyone to see. What panel of certified physicians is YouTube using to identify what information is correct vs. incorrect? I'm pretty sure they don't have any doctors doing this. The ban is a political act and not a scientific one.

I think I disagree with that statement. Censorship would prevent the information from being accessible, make it illegal, come with repercussions for those who publish it, or other such things.

Platforms like YouTube, Google Search, Twitter, Facebook and all have a problem of amplification through algorithms that don't promote well proven, high quality, trusted content. You could almost see these platforms themselves as a kind of censorship through obscuring and creating noise around quality information.

I think because of the way content is amplified on such platforms, that's why they need policies like this, to limit the possible damage and liability they might face if they'd promote something that caused a lot of damages.

This is very different from someone choosing to host their own content which is equally accessible to all other content. But as soon as you rank content, as soon as you have an algorithm pick and choose content to shown you, in what order to show it to you and all that, you actually have a propaganda problem, because you become a propaganda machine, and that's really what these platforms have become.

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus vaccine misinformation

#94

This is the slippery slope of censorship on display for everyone to see. What panel of certified physicians is YouTube using to identify what information is correct vs. incorrect? I'm pretty sure they don't have any doctors doing this. The ban is a political act and not a scientific one.

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Re: YouTube bans coronavirus vaccine misinformation

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This is the slippery slope of censorship on display for everyone to see. What panel of certified physicians is YouTube using to identify what information is correct vs. incorrect? I'm pretty sure they don't have any doctors doing this. The ban is a political act and not a scientific one.

Yes, please, I'm all in favour of more political statements

Please don't wear a mask. Please don't take vaccines. Please congregate in closed spaces for long periods of time

Do your part to achieve heard immunity.

Just don't say they might suffer the consequences of their actions, the deniers don't like it

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus vaccine misinformation

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Zzzz. Yeah that's a problem, but come back with a proposal about how to deal with the existing misinformation and bad faith problem.

More freedom of speech is the answer to misinformation because then it can be challenged. Censorship allows convenient mistruths to spread unchallenged.

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Re: YouTube bans coronavirus vaccine misinformation

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post #93

This is the slippery slope of censorship on display for everyone to see. What panel of certified physicians is YouTube using to identify what information is correct vs. incorrect? I'm pretty sure they don't have any doctors doing this. The ban is a political act and not a scientific one.

I think I disagree with that statement. Censorship would prevent the information from being accessible, make it illegal, come with repercussions for those who publish it, or other such things. Platforms like YouTube, Google Search, Twitter, Facebook and all have a problem of amplification through algorithms that don't promote well proven, high quality, trusted content. You could almost see these platforms themselves…

...so you are saying that Google should stop recommending such videos, but has no reason to ban them entirely from being posted, right?

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus vaccine misinformation

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Zzzz. Yeah that's a problem, but come back with a proposal about how to deal with the existing misinformation and bad faith problem.

More freedom of speech is the answer to misinformation because then it can be challenged. Censorship allows convenient mistruths to spread unchallenged.

> More freedom of speech is the answer to misinformation because then it can be challenged

Do we have any evidence that it's true? Anecdotally, it seems that the more the internet has expanded our ability to communicate, the more widespread misinformation has gotten.

I see the moral and anti-authoritarian arguments against censorship, but only in the context of accepting the costs. This "have your cake and eat it" argument feels hollow.

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus vaccine misinformation

#99
It is important to remember in these censorship discussions that it has never in human history been so easy and cheap to create content seen by millions of people than it is right now. Before the web if you wanted to spread medical misinformation widely you probably needed millions of dollars to promote and distribute your ideas yourself. In that sense you were much more censored in the past than you are today even if all the social media companies ban you.

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus vaccine misinformation

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I will take short term damage over long term tyranny

A Samuel Adams quote posted by Naval today on twitter I’ve been thinking about: > If you love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom — go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen! Feeling hungry for change, wha…

Personal opinion: Naval is one of the most insufferable personalities on twitter, it's just vain quotes and other empty statements with vague meanings
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