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Crypto scammers piggybacking Trump’s Twitter, cloning Medium, stealing crypto

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It's money not controlled by any single government or entity. It can be exchanged almost as easily as cash. If you don't see the use in that, then good for you, your needs must be met by the existing financial services. Personally, I used it to buy electronics in Japan, worked well. Also used it to sell my VR headset in person, because Paypal and our banks didn't allow the transfer. I use it to tip and donate to vari…

It's "money" that's not meaningfully exchangeable for goods or services. I can't buy a sandwich with it, or pay my taxes with it, or get my salary in it. Its only utility is that it can (for now) be turned into a large amount of fiat currency. Its only value proposition is that maybe that large amount will be an even larger amount in the future.

To put your argument in other words: it doesn't have enough adoption to be more useful than the current alternatives.

That has always been a caveat of new network-effect dependent technologies.

In the early days, the internet wasn't useful to communicate with other people. It was way easier to just call the person on their phone instead of hoping they had a particular messaging application installed on their PC and had it turned on when you were hoping to talk. Its only value propositions were downloading porn for free or finding communities of geeks, trolls and conspiracy theorists. It served those niches well though, and from there slowly grew to attract more and more people and usecases.

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Why are "crypto" people so willing to believe that "Elon Musk" is offering to double their money?

I am also puzzled about the intersection of people savvy enough to own bitcoin and dumb enough to think musk is gonna give them free money.

Considering the conversations I overheard about "crypto" in 2018, I'm not entirely surprised. There's a lot of gullible people who bought Bitcoin or Ethereum expecting to get rich.

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Each bitcoin transaction costs about $50 now. They're quite a bit more onerous to use than cash, thus people use "exchanges" which are controlled by for-profit private interests.

I just processed a bitcoin transaction and paid ~1.52 in fees. That was this morning.

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Re: Crypto scammers piggybacking Trump’s Twitter, cloning Medium, stealing crypto

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Welcome to 2 years ago.

Can someone help me here, how do these alarmist articles pop up occassionally as if this hasn't been happening for years.

Why does my twitter experience, logged out, consistently show me the fake crypto scams as the first response to any public figure, with heavy activity and evolving responses, while others get to act like they've never seen this before and must warn everyone.

Any theories?

One theory I have is that most people actually falling for these don't talk about it. Similar to most scams, people just feel too dumb.

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The cryptocurrency space is quite alive, and is thriving. As much as people like to hate on it, the whole space rife with engineering, social, and economic challenges that attract geeks. Unfortunately, it attracts a lot of scammers too.

The space is thriving in that people are working on it, but I wouldn't say it is thriving in terms of non-crypto people actually using these products. It's a pretty self-contained bubble of geeks building things for other geeks. Which isn't not interesting! But the expectations set by the cryptonauts was that this was all going to change the world. And then ran face first into the reasons the existing systems work th…

> But the expectations set by the cryptonauts was that this was all going to change the world.

So what?

"omg this ycombinator founder didn't change the world" said nobody ever

But mention crypto one time.... I guess it is nice that it is held up to a separate higher standard and captivates the minds of some people willing to help it get there.

Some people here mentioned a standard about merchant adoption, even to that, so what? thats the least interesting use case, the M0 money supply is small in exchange systems people choose to respect, its panned out the same way in crypto but people decide to make a separate standard of "hey a lot of this is used for speculation! I don't consider that a use case, is it because I'm ignorant of how fiat currencies work, no, can't be".

There are various services for merchants that shield the merchant from knowing crypto is being used, and various services for consumers (like debit cards) that shield them from needing to directly use crypto. That exists, not a lot of fanfare is needed, if you want to use that you can and don't need to write a whole blog post about it. Its not an interesting use case, no matter how much you felt you needed to quantify its use in that way in order to feel better about it.

It also works, shrug, onchain (+tx eventually settled onchain) transaction volume is at all time highs and it doesn't even make international news because its not news, as it should be.

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So cryptocurrency is dead, right? After some brief interest around the middle 2010s, where some vendors actually did accept it, they seem to have all revoked their support for it. All that it seems to be used for now is scams, ransomware, and pump-and-dump schemes.

Newegg at least still accepts it. I believe Humble does as well, but I don't know that.

Re: Crypto scammers piggybacking Trump’s Twitter, cloning Medium, stealing crypto

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It's money not controlled by any single government or entity. It can be exchanged almost as easily as cash. If you don't see the use in that, then good for you, your needs must be met by the existing financial services. Personally, I used it to buy electronics in Japan, worked well. Also used it to sell my VR headset in person, because Paypal and our banks didn't allow the transfer. I use it to tip and donate to vari…

Monitoring crypto prices and fundamentals is not so bad compared with traditional finance folks having to read through hundreds of all-caps tweets to know how much value the USD will lose this month, No, you just have to worry about how much your crypto will change in value each day. Bitcoin's value changed by over 7% in just the past month, and in the past year has dropped in value by over 20% twice. That's so much…

If you're worried about price fluctuations, sell Bitcoin futures against your holdings dated for when you need the USD?

You have the exact same problem with gold, which has increased 30% over the last few months.

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