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Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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Post by jankotek »

aruggirello wrote: post #77
jankotek wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, it is great compared to alternatives. Release linked here reworked on screen notifications. So that sound problem may be fixed. Otherwise you can change association for volume keys and use your own command. You can uninstall nepomuk etc..

I don't think he's referring to notifications, but to those visual feedback icons that show up in the middle of the screen whenever you change brightness or volume (or mute sound) via keyboard.

》On-screen displays that appear when changing the volume or display brightness (for example) have been redesigned to be less obtrusive

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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Post by axelf4 »

skeletal88 wrote: post #48
Pet_Ant wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because it takes up less real estate and I know what app I’m looking for. I don’t have separate windows for all my Firefox tabs even though you could consider them to belong to 5 or 6 different categories.

Why not let the application decide, like with browser tabs? I absolutely hate it that the default for Gnome is to group all windows of the same application together under the same icon. When I have multiple terminals open, then they are in no way related. I want a specific one. Like writing code in an editor and a terminal for running the application or compiling, and then another one for some shell access.

Gnome is also incredibly slow to allow one to select a particular window when Alt-Tabbing. It is a one second delay every time you want to change window.

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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Post by ognarb »

brmgb wrote: post #90

I don't understand why the KDE teams let so many padding and alignment issues go through each release. Some of them are particularly jarring. For example, if you look at the screenshot of the system settings in the announcement, the pictures with two lines of subtext are above the ones with only one line despite them being the same size. It might seem minor but the situation repeats everywhere. I understand it might…

You will be happy to hear that a fix for the padding in the system settings should come with the next update of the KDE frameworks. Sadly the libraries release schedule is a bit out of sync with Plasma release schedule.

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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Post by dleslie »

shmerl wrote: post #75
dleslie wrote: post #69

Every few years I give KDE a shot, and the result is always the same; it's too unstable and slow to be a daily driver. The latest time was just last month, and the _stock_ panel widgets kept crashing, forgetting their preferences, and so on. The desktop environment itself occasionally crashed-to-login. Well, back to Gnome2! (MATE).

I've been using it for a long time and didn't notice any slowness (make sure file search is off). What's bugging me though is that subsurfaces clipping bug in Wayland session. Kmail is still broken in 5.19.x.

Critically, I tend to use low-power machines because I hate fan noise and excessive heat.

I was using KDE on an RPi4 and Pinebook Pro. For basically all the computing that I do these machines are more than powerful enough; but apparently not for KDE (or Gnome3!)

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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Post by coldtea »

amelius wrote: post #27
thomond wrote: post #12

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> This is exactly the opposite of what I want. Well maybe it's what everyone else wants. Either way it's just the default they're changing, one good thing about grouping in Plasma is it lets you exclude certain applications so you can exclude your PDF viewer. Alot of other environments give an all or nothing approach.

> Well maybe it's what everyone else wants. Could you give an argument for why someone would want it?

To save screen space, and have all windows of same kind (e.g. PDF views) in a single unit.

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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Post by jokethrowaway »

brmgb wrote: post #90

I don't understand why the KDE teams let so many padding and alignment issues go through each release. Some of them are particularly jarring. For example, if you look at the screenshot of the system settings in the announcement, the pictures with two lines of subtext are above the ones with only one line despite them being the same size. It might seem minor but the situation repeats everywhere. I understand it might…

While I agree with you, that's nothing a custom theme / engine can't fix. Fonts on linux are not that great as well, by default.

KDE is quite a useful Desktop Environment packed with functionality; I miss KDE a lot when using Mac OS X or Windows.

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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Post by eMSF »

brylie wrote: post #71
teekert wrote: post #64

Man, my entire life I've been going back and forth between Gnome and KDE, I just settled (again) on stock Ubuntu (for some months now) but now that I see this video and the grass looks greener, again. Guess I'm installing KDE Neon tonight... Edit, I have to say that for the kids I'll stay on Gnome, it's very recognizable for them when compared to the iPads they use at school, much more so than KDE (and Win10 for that…

I recently decided to give stock Ubuntu with Gnome a try, coming from KDE. After about two weeks of missing some of the simple pleasures of KDE, like being able to right-click in the file browser to create a new file or resizing windows to the left/right side of the window with Meta-left/right (which is somehow buggy in Gnome), I landed back in KDE-land with Neon. I briefly toyed with the idea of Manjaro, but am not…

>like being able to right-click in the file browser to create a new file or resizing windows to the left/right side of the window with Meta-left/right

It's been possible to create files in the file browser (in Nautilus/Gnome) for as long as I can remember – you just have to have "templates" for the files you want to create in your Templates directory (e.g. "C file.c", "Text file.txt"). That being said, unfortunately this is one of those things where Ubuntu and Gnome are objectively worse than they were ten years ago – due to the changes related to renaming files in Nautilus, you can no longer give your new files a proper name as you create them, but have to manually rename them afterwards. Compared to all the clicks that takes (with typing in between), it's faster and more convenient to just click "Open Terminal here" and create any files you need with touch.

I don't know of any problems with Super-left/right, though.

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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Post by shmerl »

dleslie wrote: post #94
shmerl wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been using it for a long time and didn't notice any slowness (make sure file search is off). What's bugging me though is that subsurfaces clipping bug in Wayland session. Kmail is still broken in 5.19.x.

Critically, I tend to use low-power machines because I hate fan noise and excessive heat. I was using KDE on an RPi4 and Pinebook Pro. For basically all the computing that I do these machines are more than powerful enough; but apparently not for KDE (or Gnome3!)

I like silent operation too, but I do the opposite, get a big case with 200 mm Noctua fans and double Noctua CPU cooler :) It runs very silently even with high end Ryzen.

The heat as long as it's dissipated out of the case to keep the system cool doesn't bother me.

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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Post by kuschku »

diffeomorphism wrote: post #78
kuschku wrote: post #50

I’ve been using Plasma for years, but after this release talking so much about the wayland improvements, the actual result is more than disappointing. First, to explain my setup: I've got a Dell UP2718Q in landscape, 3840x2160, 10-bit in DCI-P3 colorspace at 1.5x scale at 60Hz, side-by-side with a Fujitsu Siemens P17-2 in portrait, 1024x1280, 8-bit in sRGB colorspace at 1x scale at 75Hz 10-bit support isn’t there yet…

Maybe a stupid question, but why? If you care about high resolution and good colors why are you keeping the low res second monitor? If you don't care about hires, why not simply set the Dell one to a lower resolution and not worry about scaling at all?

The combination of both monitors allows me to check each of my designs both on a high-quality monitor, as e.g. a mac user would have, and on a low-quality monitor.

You probably also have encountered websites which are designed for tiny monitors, and end up with text stretched across 40cm (e.g. HN) or websites with razor-thin text that is basically unreadable on cheaper monitors.

As I work in UI/UX design, I want to avoid that issue :)

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