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Re: Samsung Ads – Demand-Side Platform

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Post by sumtechguy »

corobo wrote: post #53
manuelabeledo wrote: post #19

I keep seeing people who argue that TVs would be notably "more expensive" if they didn't come with ads. Let's say that the average Samsung TV costs $1,000, ad revenue per person is around $30 a year, and the average lifespan of a TV is 10 years. I own a Samsung TV since 2016. I think they may have pushed 5 firmware updates since then. There is no way I can be convinced that Samsung needs to increase the price of TVs…

> why can't I just pay more and opt out Because they one day realised they can make you pay more and show you ads to get both of the moneys Honestly this is why I fully back adblockers of all kinds. Companies associated with ad tech would do much worse if they thought they could get away with it

That is exactly what happened with cable TV. Their main selling point was no commercials because you were paying for it. Now just sitting down and watching something on cable is a chore. I gave up and built my own library of things to watch. Was visiting some family and was watching a marathon of some show. It was the same 10 commercials over and over. Each break was usually 3-5 mins long. It was a good reminder of why I buy my own media.

Re: Samsung Ads – Demand-Side Platform

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Post by bitlevel »

burnte wrote: post #68
snarfy wrote: post #29

Samsung really needs to just flush their entire software division. It's all garbage. Their android software is a frustrating joke. Tizen is a hot mess. Every issue I've ever had with a samsung product was with their software, and it's why I've sworn off the brand as a whole.

They make amazing phones, but yes, their software overlay is trash, IMO. I have a Samsung TV too and don't have it connected to the network so I don't have to deal with the smart TV crap.

Samsung's site selling Ads to those who buy them states clearly that TV's, Phones and Tablets are all monitored and viable options for delivery of ads, and the accurate determination of those who use them.

See for yourself: https://www.samsung.com/us/business/samsungads/

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Post by dx87 »

smartisass wrote: post #24

Someone in a previous thread mentioned Sceptre TVs. They are dumb. Incredibly low priced but quality models available (55" 4k HDR HDMI 2.0 for $300) [1]. They have 30yrs experience. Seems a good company. Have high-end models too. [1] https://www.sceptre.com/TV/4K-UHD-TV/U550CV-UMRD-55-4K-UHD-T... Anybody here have one?

I used to have one, it lasted ~5 years before the display stopped working due to some sort of internal electronics failure. IIRC, the reason they're cheap is because they're off-brand Samsung TVs that failed QA testing.

Re: Samsung Ads – Demand-Side Platform

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Post by AznHisoka »

It seems most people's concerns are around obtrusive ads on the home screen. Which I agree with, as those are very annoying and takes up way too much sense.

However, there is another component to Samsung Ads - the video ads on their Samsung Plus Channel. For those that don't know, this channel consists of free content (usually B-level movies, old TV series, etc).

Why does anyone have a problem if Samsung puts ads on this content? After all, it does cost them money to license most of this content, and if you don't want to watch those ads, you simply don't watch that content. Not to mention Youtube and everyone else has the same business model.

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Post by ihumanable »

simlevesque wrote: post #59
gtsteve wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Around a minute after losing mains power. When resuming from standby it's instant, like every other TV.

It an offline smart tv then, not a dumb tv.

That is literally what the poster originally described.

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Post by propelol »

namanaggarwal wrote: post #15

Made a mental note to buy only the dumb tv. If I want streaming options I would rather setup my own. Or for non-tech I would recommend dumb tv + apple tv or Chromecast

I'm currently looking at some 4k 50+ inches PC monitors, and I don't see what the downside is doing this instead of getting a TV.

Re: Samsung Ads – Demand-Side Platform

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Post by ricksharp »

colejohnson66 wrote: post #46
indysigners wrote: post #6

I’d rather have no telly at all than buying some crap Samsung tv for €2.000 only to see their programmatic advertising. Whoever at Samsung decided this must be drunk! But hey, I guess there still are enough people around who don’t care.

I bought a TCL Roku TV and thankfully the only ads are on the home screen where you select the input or app.[a] I can’t imagine watching video from an input and the TV deciding I want an ad on top of my movie. [a] I don’t delude myself into thinking this won’t change, but so far, I can just tune out (no pun intended) the ad on the side. Not to mention that the ads are of shows and movies, not products (which would be…

I have 2 TLC Roku TVs. One I use as a large monitor for my desktop. I’m very happy with them. I mostly watch Netflix, YouTube, and Amazon Prime video and have never noticed the ads on the navigation screen (since they are just tv shows).

I’m planning to get YouTube premium to remove ads there and vote with my money for an ad-free Internet.

I never imagined that they would be spying on the actual video output, but I would consider that not only a major violation of privacy but corporate espionage (because I use it for work).

I don’t believe that is the case, but I’ll be researching if that is being done.

Re: Samsung Ads – Demand-Side Platform

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Post by TomGullen »

Lone voice here I guess - I have a mid/high range Samsung TV and love it. Picture quality is brilliant and it looks good on the wall.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen an advert on it from Samsung - where are they appearing exactly? I just switch between terrestrial TV and various apps like Netflix and Amazon on the bottom navigation bar and don’t think I’ve ever seen one. Might be wrong though!

Re: Samsung Ads – Demand-Side Platform

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Post by blacksmith_tb »

manuelabeledo wrote: post #19

I keep seeing people who argue that TVs would be notably "more expensive" if they didn't come with ads. Let's say that the average Samsung TV costs $1,000, ad revenue per person is around $30 a year, and the average lifespan of a TV is 10 years. I own a Samsung TV since 2016. I think they may have pushed 5 firmware updates since then. There is no way I can be convinced that Samsung needs to increase the price of TVs…

I hate (and block) ads everywhere I can, but if we take your numbers as a starting point, doesn't that $30/yr translate to an extra $300 for Samsung in those 10 years, a 30% boost in their income on the sale of your TV? My naive assumption is that they make more money on ads in the short run, which is why they're doing it. But they may (should!) lose money in the long run if competitors can sell ad-free alternatives at a decent price...
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