Really no such thing as risk mitigation. Avoid it, accept it, or make it someone else's responsibility. Do you really want identity management to be the responsibility of the guy delivering pizza? The decision should be simple. What's an authoritative request?
The EU is set to declare war on encryption
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Re: The EU is set to declare war on encryption
#92Well, it has been only few months since when a ""study"" released, ordered by the EU parliament, where the authors were asking for a european firewall similar to the chinese one. Between drowning refugees and immigrants in Mediterranean sea, shooting them at the borders and throwing whoever survive in concentration camps, it's only logical to go after the local dissidents too.
It's doubtful all this would be required just for refugees. Though I've heard of conspiracy theories about taking them in order to justify all-encompassing surveillance to your own populace
Oh no no i didn't mean that it's happening because of/for the immigration.
Just saying that European Union is already in honeymoon with the far right so such policies are only to be expected.
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#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
The banks service all of them and nothing much happens to them. Who are the real crooks?
The real key here is knowingly . Large banks have had a slew of "scandals" whereby they've been caught moving many billions of dollars for evil organizations the rest of us would go to prison for donating to. How many times do these organizations have to get caught for it to be handled in a fashion comparable to mere mortals? I say "scandals" because by some miracle it never seems to be a particularly big deal in the…
It depends on what you mean by "big deal". The ICIJ published a series of damning articles in relatively-big-deal papers as late as yesterday. (1)
Aguably, the news is shadowed by other, more immediate topics - it would be interesting to see how it would have been received in a non-2020-ish year.
(I remember Panama Papers where a bigger deal, for example, probably because you could name famous people while in headlines.)
Re: The EU is set to declare war on encryption
#94I can't wait for the "If you have nothing to hide, then you have nothing to fear" refrains to be trotted out yet again. Inverted totalitarian klepto-plutocracy wins against any individual who doesn't take extra-ordinary measures when it builds a panopticon. "Let's see your 30 year search history and find a crime in there to persecute, I mean, prosecute you with. Or even a professional technical illegality would suffi…
I prefer the variant: "It’s not that I have something to hide. I have nothing I want you to see."
It's clearer on what the problem is.
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#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
“Four Horsemen of the Infocalypse”: terrorists, pedophiles, drug dealers, and money launderers.
The banks service all of them and nothing much happens to them. Who are the real crooks?
> Who are the real crooks?
First they came for the data brokers and I did not speak out because I am not a data broker.
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#96> EU home affairs officials have grown increasingly concerned about international paedophile networks and in July unveiled plans to force technology companies to take greater responsibility for reporting them. "Think of the children" cliché will never die.
> "Think of the children"
Prince Andrew already did
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#97Less just assume that they go ahead, everyone complies... How long until you'd need to revert the law, because all legal traffic is now exploitable, while the criminals are still using good crypto? How much damage does this need to cause before politicians will sit down and understand while their half-assed idea failed?
> How long until you'd need to revert the law, because all legal traffic is now exploitable, while the criminals are still using good crypto? That's a common gun rights argument -- "If guns are illegal only criminals will have guns". How controversial could it be?
I don’t need guns in the modern world, but they are not illegal, just restricted. In most countries you can legally own guns, shotguns and rifles.
It’s not that you can only own a shotgun that has been modified so it can kill only ducks and not police officers. Everyone understand that you can’t modify a weapon like that.
Crypto is a little different because the need is bigger. This means looser restrictions, to the point where having laws against using it makes no sense.
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#98> EU home affairs officials have grown increasingly concerned about international paedophile networks and in July unveiled plans to force technology companies to take greater responsibility for reporting them. "Think of the children" cliché will never die.
“Four Horsemen of the Infocalypse”: terrorists, pedophiles, drug dealers, and money launderers.
In the eyes of the state, there is a much, much worse category: tax cheaters.
Saul from Breaking Bad explains it very well here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ez6xH-su2xI
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#99As an engineer I'm used to think in trade-offs, and I wonder why that is not more common. The goals they whish to attain might be reasonable, but at what price? What are the disadvantages? In Europe there are some states becoming more authoritarian and who knows what's comes next? Democracy and freedom is not set in stone, it must be protected -- in this case it must be protected by ensuring secure communication.
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#100> EU home affairs officials have grown increasingly concerned about international paedophile networks and in July unveiled plans to force technology companies to take greater responsibility for reporting them. "Think of the children" cliché will never die.
They'll appeal to the supposed needs of the children while pushing whatever pretense, but have no interest when someone asks about the liberty of the children, and their grandchildren.
Never negotiate with terrorists.