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Re: On Browser Tabs

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Post by epage »

eclipseo76 wrote: post #66
ssivark wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In response to some of the suggestions: 1. Tab groups: I have been an extensive user of tab groups in the past (when it was native in Firefox); it’s very helpful if your tabs cleave nicely into less than a dozen or so projects/themes, and you have no more than a few hundred tabs. 2. Tree style tabs: The extensions I’ve tried tend to be very slow and non-ergonomic for my use case. 3. The % trick: Didn’t know this; tha…

> 2. Tree style tabs: The extensions I’ve tried tend to be very slow Try Sidebery: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/sidebery/

What does Sidebery offer over Tree Style Tabs?

Re: On Browser Tabs

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Post by epage »

amelius wrote: post #32
ssivark wrote: post #3

I... have a problem. I recently had ~1600 tabs open in Firefox. With a lot of painstaking effort I cut it down to ~750. Quite some distance to go still. The default interface sucks once you have more than 50 tabs. I wish there were easy REPL-ish programmatic access to the list/dict of tabs (so I could filter out all GitHub tabs, or close all stackoverflow tabs, etc) and that was a first class citizen in the browser i…

Close you tabs and use your browser's history function to find them back if you really need them.

My problems with history

- Sometimes I remember when I closed a tab more than when I opened a tab but its organized around open-time

- Once I start searching, I lose the context o time. I have a rough idea of terms and time and want to find something.

Re: On Browser Tabs

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Post by epage »

ssivark wrote: post #3

I... have a problem. I recently had ~1600 tabs open in Firefox. With a lot of painstaking effort I cut it down to ~750. Quite some distance to go still. The default interface sucks once you have more than 50 tabs. I wish there were easy REPL-ish programmatic access to the list/dict of tabs (so I could filter out all GitHub tabs, or close all stackoverflow tabs, etc) and that was a first class citizen in the browser i…

What would help me in reducing tabs/windows is good session management. I want per-window sessions that I can close and restore with their own history. Each window would then have a purpose, be helping me work on a project.

Instead I have history that searches across all my work (news, python development, shopping, etc) and if I want to pause on some of it, without just leaving the tabs open, I have to manually delete and recreate the bookmarks to represent my current state.

Re: On Browser Tabs

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Post by summitsummit »

parley wrote: post #82
ssivark wrote: post #3

I... have a problem. I recently had ~1600 tabs open in Firefox. With a lot of painstaking effort I cut it down to ~750. Quite some distance to go still. The default interface sucks once you have more than 50 tabs. I wish there were easy REPL-ish programmatic access to the list/dict of tabs (so I could filter out all GitHub tabs, or close all stackoverflow tabs, etc) and that was a first class citizen in the browser i…

I recently "closed" 12000+ (not a typo) tabs in one of my Firefox profiles into OneTab. In another profile I have 30+ different windows open for different projects and contexts, and I have more profiles (typically one per WM workspace which are topical). I've tried lots of browser addons/extensions and tools over the years, but none offered proper salvation. I have a design in my head of what kind of tool I'd like, b…

why do you have so many?

Re: On Browser Tabs

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Post by chris_st »

ajstiles wrote: post #87

I built the "first tabbed browser", NetCaptor, back in 1997. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/josephbernstein/meet-th... My take - some of us leave tabs open way too long because we fear not being able to get back to those sites again… it’s loss aversion. Tabs aren’t the core problem per se, it’s recall. We need to solve the “I want to get back here again” problem. I primarily use Brave and effectively start fres…

Good point. I've lost track of the number of start-ups that proposed some kind of "Search your browser history" functionality, which, to be honest, I've wished for myself. But I don't know of any that have even made it to released-product stage.

Re: On Browser Tabs

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Post by kevincox »

renewiltord wrote: post #90
kevincox wrote: post #59

Tabs were a mistake. They were a hack to work around window managers that lacked enough features and now we have a "window manager" inside of a window manager. Probably most apps have their own tab interface which works differently from every other app. We should rethink the design, improve the window managers, then remove tabs. I don't think it will ever happen, but it would be nice.

There was a Compiz extension that permitted window tabbing like this. I did not enjoy its use. I attempted to use it to create "environments". It was less effective than using workspaces because workspaces allowed full windowing.

KWin does (did?) this as well. I think the biggest problem is that if you open a new "window" it doesn't know that you want it to show as a new tab on the same window. I think that this is largely because X doesn't actually know which window opened the new window.

I used the KWin tabs a fair amount, but they didn't fill the same use case as browser tabs. It would be interesting to see this implemented, of course you would also need to seriously patch the browser.

Re: On Browser Tabs

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Post by conductor »

How do people manage to manage hundreds or even thousands of open tabs? And most importantly, why? Are they using tabs instead of bookmarks?

Usually I have no more than ten. Even when searching/researching something it doesn't get more than twenty - open all the interesting search results on the first search page, usually that's enough to find whatever I'm looking for. If not, tabs are being closed one by one or are being bookmarked with appropriate tags. Repeat for the next page of search results.

Re: On Browser Tabs

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Post by code_duck »

It baffles me to hear how many people use tabs - some vast amount open at once. I open and close pages as I read them, and only have what's relevant to me open at any time. To me this is what Reading List and bookmarks are for.

Re: On Browser Tabs

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Post by meowface »

conductor wrote: post #97

How do people manage to manage hundreds or even thousands of open tabs? And most importantly, why? Are they using tabs instead of bookmarks? Usually I have no more than ten. Even when searching/researching something it doesn't get more than twenty - open all the interesting search results on the first search page, usually that's enough to find whatever I'm looking for. If not, tabs are being closed one by one or are…

Because my browser is like my brain and my life: disorganized and full of loose threads.

I imagine there's likely a correlation with ADHD, as well.

Re: On Browser Tabs

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Post by renewiltord »

kevincox wrote: post #96
renewiltord wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There was a Compiz extension that permitted window tabbing like this. I did not enjoy its use. I attempted to use it to create "environments". It was less effective than using workspaces because workspaces allowed full windowing.

KWin does (did?) this as well. I think the biggest problem is that if you open a new "window" it doesn't know that you want it to show as a new tab on the same window. I think that this is largely because X doesn't actually know which window opened the new window. I used the KWin tabs a fair amount, but they didn't fill the same use case as browser tabs. It would be interesting to see this implemented, of course you…

It might have been KWin and I misremembered.
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