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Re: Oculus Quest 2

#91

Genuine question - if this was the perfect AR/VR device, would you use it even though it is a FB product? I have real concerns about privacy and the need to log in with FB credentials, but I am also very hopeful for devices that can continue to grow the market and help take it mainstream.

create a new facebook account just for this and dont use it ever ?

This also involves agreeing to the Facebook ToS.

Re: Oculus Quest 2

#92

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What's the privacy concern here ? Facebook knows what I do in VR ? I don't necessarily want that but TBH I don't really care about it either - I don't plan on using it for anything compromising anyway and I'm bombarded by advertisement spam everywhere to the point of immunity.

I don't want or need a Facebook account, and I don't want their software running on my machine. They've shown to be bad actors in the past with harvesting as much data as possible, even on people who don't have accounts.

I can see that, but TBH I already use their products, the benefit outweigh the cost so not much changes here.

Re: Oculus Quest 2

#93

Genuine question - if this was the perfect AR/VR device, would you use it even though it is a FB product? I have real concerns about privacy and the need to log in with FB credentials, but I am also very hopeful for devices that can continue to grow the market and help take it mainstream.

Well, I have a legacy Oculus account, and the Quest 2 will be obsolete before the grandfathering time has expired, so I am going to get the Quest 2. Hopefully a reasonable competitor will be available by then. EDIT: never mind. I won't be getting the Quest 2.

For what it's worth, I don't think the grandfathering applies.

"All future unreleased Oculus devices will require a Facebook account, even if you already have an Oculus account."

https://www.oculus.com/blog/a-single-way-to-log-into-oculus-...

Re: Oculus Quest 2

#94
post #54

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What's the privacy concern here ? Facebook knows what I do in VR ? I don't necessarily want that but TBH I don't really care about it either - I don't plan on using it for anything compromising anyway and I'm bombarded by advertisement spam everywhere to the point of immunity.

They’ll have control of your vision, literally.

I mean this is a toy you put on for leasure (a tool at best but at that point you'll probably invest more money and not use a FB product) if it's not a satisfactory experience I stop using it

Re: Oculus Quest 2

#95

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If they've got eye tracking, they know basically how your visual cortex behaves – and hence how to put stuff where you look at it. That'll get infuriating very quickly. They'll also know what gets your attention, what doesn't… unless you can control your saccades, that'll leak a lot of information about your mind-state while viewing Facebook-controlled media. They could, if they wanted to, blackbox reverse-engineer b…

>That'll get infuriating very quickly. And as soon it does I stop using it. As for reverse engineering my preferences I'm not sure I care honestly - if it means ads I get are more relevant it might even be a good thing. I don't know I just don't feel there's a lot of value in profiling me specifically and it probably only helps them in aggregate anyway. I'm not against dats privacy, but if it gets me superior hardwar…

> I don't know I just don't feel there's a lot of value in profiling me specifically

Nah; only a few dollars a (time period), really.

Multiply that by all their customers and you have a lot of money coming in from the creepy tracking.

Re: Oculus Quest 2

#96

Genuine question - if this was the perfect AR/VR device, would you use it even though it is a FB product? I have real concerns about privacy and the need to log in with FB credentials, but I am also very hopeful for devices that can continue to grow the market and help take it mainstream.

No. I will never willingly use facebook or facebook products.

Re: Oculus Quest 2

#97

Genuine question - if this was the perfect AR/VR device, would you use it even though it is a FB product? I have real concerns about privacy and the need to log in with FB credentials, but I am also very hopeful for devices that can continue to grow the market and help take it mainstream.

What's the privacy concern here ? Facebook knows what I do in VR ? I don't necessarily want that but TBH I don't really care about it either - I don't plan on using it for anything compromising anyway and I'm bombarded by advertisement spam everywhere to the point of immunity.

It's not just knowing what I do in VR. It's also seeing and hearing into my house, because they have provisions for scenarious in which they would keep full sensor data indefinitely.

Re: Oculus Quest 2

#98

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Well, I have a legacy Oculus account, and the Quest 2 will be obsolete before the grandfathering time has expired, so I am going to get the Quest 2. Hopefully a reasonable competitor will be available by then. EDIT: never mind. I won't be getting the Quest 2.

For what it's worth, I don't think the grandfathering applies. "All future unreleased Oculus devices will require a Facebook account, even if you already have an Oculus account." https://www.oculus.com/blog/a-single-way-to-log-into-oculus-...

shit...

Re: Oculus Quest 2

#99
post #52

Did they say something about the FoV? I have to admit, I would prefer more FoV instead of higher resolution.

There is a trade off though in terms of detail. You're essentially taking a pixelated image and stretching it out more with just a FOV increase. The result for your eyes is essentially increasingly greater simulated myopia.

Okay, but having a bigger display with the same PPI instead of making it the same size, but higher PPI should be perferable here, right?

Re: Oculus Quest 2

#100
post #82

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create a new facebook account just for this and dont use it ever ?

They would definitely connect the dots. Same home WiFi, for starters.

now that would be an interesting experiment to see how and if they figure that out
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