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Canon's cloud platform has lost users' files and can't restore them

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Re: Canon's cloud platform has lost users' files and can't restore them

#91
On-site and at least two off-site.

It sucks for their users who maybe don’t know the golden rule above. I certainly don’t blame non-tech folk who paid a known photography company to handle a complex problem on their behalf - they did the right thing in handing this responsibility to people who they believed could be trusted.

To the greater point - this is incredibly damning of Canon’s cloud storage going forward. As others have said, the amount of data lost overall is not much in the greater scheme of things, but that’s not the concern. What’s worrying is that they were able to lose any data at all. How much redundancy do they have? How are permissions managed?

When I backup photos and videos at home I have a script to chattr -i all the files independently as they’re stored on top of the redundancy and backups. You need to protect your data from yourself, too.

Re: Canon's cloud platform has lost users' files and can't restore them

#92
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I suppose that feature would be incompatible with user data in a GDPR world ??

Git is also incompatible with GDPR, you can't simply delete a file from all history.

Oh man, all my WORM tapes are not GDPR compatible...thats terrible!!!

Re: Canon's cloud platform has lost users' files and can't restore them

#93
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The software and service might have been ... provided "as is", without warranty of any kind, expressed or implied, including but not limited to...

> provided "as is", without warranty of any kind, expressed or implied, including but not limited to... IANAL, but when a service is advertised as being ideal for storing your work or photos, isn't that directly implying that there is a warranty that their service is fit-for-purpose? You can't advertise something in big lettering and then countermand that in the small-print - so those magic words certainly don't shie…

> Again, IANAL - can anyone is is a lawyer chip-in?

I would expect the answers to be highly dependent on jurisdiction.

Re: Canon's cloud platform has lost users' files and can't restore them

#94
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This. Outside of FAANG, Gov and finance, very few consumer facing companies have the budgets to engineer redundancies.

>budgets to engineer redundancies You dont need that, but a backup ;)

They obviously do have _some_ backups (since were able to restore all videos and all photos - but not all photos at the original resolution).

In the end it's all a tradeoff... ignoring cost, we all know what to do to get pretty safe storage. But how much are you really willing to pay, per month, for that safety?

Re: Canon's cloud platform has lost users' files and can't restore them

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This comment reads as "This is normal; nothing to see here move along". Which is more of an indictment on the state of things than on the comment itself. If you can't protect people's shit, don't offer to hold onto it for money!

Your comment is basically saying capitalism is bad. I agree.

Then turn off the computer and cancel your internet.

Re: Canon's cloud platform has lost users' files and can't restore them

#97
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This comment reads as "This is normal; nothing to see here move along". Which is more of an indictment on the state of things than on the comment itself. If you can't protect people's shit, don't offer to hold onto it for money!

I try to avoid normative statements because it leads to better discussion. Unfortunately this style of discussion leads to comments that project normative stance, or criticize me from not making my normative position clear. (positive statement is statement of what without indication of approval or disapproval, normative statement expresses a value judgment)

> In this case just 10TB of data was lost

Seems like a value judgement to me.

Anyhow, something about `innumerable, singular sites of suffering' makes the point rather moot.

Re: Canon's cloud platform has lost users' files and can't restore them

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Git is also incompatible with GDPR, you can't simply delete a file from all history.

Git is not really intended for personal data

Yeah, I don't really understand why you would like to stuff personal data into a git repository (unless we're strictly speaking about author data). It's really not the tool for it.

Now for those who decided that a blockchain is the perfect solution for storing personal data however...

Re: Canon's cloud platform has lost users' files and can't restore them

#99

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I suppose that feature would be incompatible with user data in a GDPR world ??

I'm not a lawyer, but my understanding is that GDPR requires companies to remove user data upon request in reasonable time-frame. If you keep not deletable backups for one month in order to improve reliability of your service, then my understanding is that it is fine to fulfill the GDPR data deletion requests withing one month period, not immediately.

Filtering this stuff from a master transaction log is kinda ludicrous, not looking forward to implementing that.

Re: Canon's cloud platform has lost users' files and can't restore them

#100

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Your comment is basically saying capitalism is bad. I agree.

Then turn off the computer and cancel your internet.

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