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Re: Monitoring demystified: A guide for logging, tracing, metrics

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Post by zacksh » Mon, Aug 03, 2020, 9:21 PM UTC

rudasn wrote: post #52

smoe wrote: post #37

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It depends where you are in the world. When I was working in Switzerland, most SaaS pricing were no-brainers for us. But since I work in Latin America for small companies with local costumers, all the different services and tools you might want to use, with prices targeted at "western" customers, much more quickly add up to the equivalent of having multiple people on staff full time. Still it is often not worth to ro…

> It depends where you are in the world. Exactly this. We operate in Eastern Europe with local clients, offering on-prem SaaS. If I added all my clients' servers on datadog it would very easily eat through our profit margins. > Still it is often not worth to roll your own I tried hard not to, but at at the end, after spending 1 week trying to setup netdata and failed, I decided not to spend another week trying to set…

The trick with the Netdata agent is to try the install script if running into trouble.

Re: Monitoring demystified: A guide for logging, tracing, metrics

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Post by rudasn » Tue, Aug 04, 2020, 12:12 PM UTC

zacksh wrote: post #91

rudasn wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It depends where you are in the world. Exactly this. We operate in Eastern Europe with local clients, offering on-prem SaaS. If I added all my clients' servers on datadog it would very easily eat through our profit margins. > Still it is often not worth to roll your own I tried hard not to, but at at the end, after spending 1 week trying to setup netdata and failed, I decided not to spend another week trying to set…

The trick with the Netdata agent is to try the install script if running into trouble.

Yeah, having looked at what the script does I decided to 'containerize' the agent, and that led to other issues like configuring email alerts etc.

I was already a week deep into looking at various options and had to deliver on basic metrics and alerting, so I figured a couple of bash scripts, that log into local files with log rotation, systemd, and a dump/memory only receiving end running on nodejs for the alerts would be much faster and easier to maintain.

So far so good.

Re: Monitoring demystified: A guide for logging, tracing, metrics

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Post by randoramax » Wed, Aug 05, 2020, 4:46 PM UTC

Godel_unicode wrote: post #71

rudasn wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It depends where you are in the world. Exactly this. We operate in Eastern Europe with local clients, offering on-prem SaaS. If I added all my clients' servers on datadog it would very easily eat through our profit margins. > Still it is often not worth to roll your own I tried hard not to, but at at the end, after spending 1 week trying to setup netdata and failed, I decided not to spend another week trying to set…

Tangent: what's the difference between on-prem SaaS and just "software"?

it used to be called "private cloud", wasn't it?