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The NBA bans customers from putting ‘freehongkong’ on customized league jerseys

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Re: The NBA bans customers from putting ‘freehongkong’ on customized league jerseys

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Post by Symbiote »

bonestamp2 wrote: post #77
reedwolf wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure why amznthrwaway is being voted down, but he has a good point. Americans are used to others having to tiptoe around their sensibilities, and now they're finding out what adhering to a foreign culture's value system is like.

I'm not disagreeing, but I also don't know what you mean. I'm trying to imagine something, say for example, Sony would have to prevent users from doing on their gaming platform that would otherwise cause millions of American Playstation fans to stop using their consoles. I tried to think of a sports league analogy, but I don't think there are any foreign sports leagues that are popular enough here to make a proper an…

Show a nipple?

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Post by Symbiote »

mywittyname wrote: post #51
yumraj wrote: post #21

How about: Free China of CCP That’ll take care of all the underlying issues.

It won't change the minds of the millions of people in political power in China. Lots of Chinese feel quite strongly that the Taiwan/Tibet/Hong Kong claims are legitimate and that the international community is attacking China. I guess it would be like if the US was forced to cede Texas back to Mexico because they lost a war. Most Americans, regardless of political party, would hold the opinion that Texas is still Am…

Maybe it's even more like if millions of Scottish people wanted independence.

Except they had a referendum, which is unimaginable in Hong Kong.

Re: The NBA bans customers from putting ‘freehongkong’ on customized league jerseys

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Post by bigpumpkin »

11thEarlOfMar wrote: post #83

Here's another angle. The increasing censorship within China leaves less and less opportunity for the greater Chinese population to learn about the capabilities of other countries. A few examples of excellence that are still available to Chinese citizens are the NBA, Apple products, US education and Tesla cars. Most nations export excellence of some type to China. Having these examples in their hands or on their scre…

This claim is objectively false since Chinese people become more nationalistic after visiting western countries. The cognitive dissonance isn't that western countries are better than expected, it is that they are worse. Look no further than the political activities by Chinese students in western universities.

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Post by robert_foss »

11thEarlOfMar wrote: post #83

Here's another angle. The increasing censorship within China leaves less and less opportunity for the greater Chinese population to learn about the capabilities of other countries. A few examples of excellence that are still available to Chinese citizens are the NBA, Apple products, US education and Tesla cars. Most nations export excellence of some type to China. Having these examples in their hands or on their scre…

The US had an intentional policy of opening up China through economic means. Which has not since it's implementation.

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Post by gruez »

DanBC wrote: post #39
acid__ wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Realistically though, CBP isn't going to come after you if you're buying a few hundred bucks of apparel for personal use.

You can find yourself on a CBP list if you import counterfeit goods. https://www.racked.com/2018/1/8/16849298/amazon-counterfeits...

Funny how there's a list for natural persons, but not (large) corporations.

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Post by bpodgursky »

bigpumpkin wrote: post #93
11thEarlOfMar wrote: post #83

Here's another angle. The increasing censorship within China leaves less and less opportunity for the greater Chinese population to learn about the capabilities of other countries. A few examples of excellence that are still available to Chinese citizens are the NBA, Apple products, US education and Tesla cars. Most nations export excellence of some type to China. Having these examples in their hands or on their scre…

This claim is objectively false since Chinese people become more nationalistic after visiting western countries. The cognitive dissonance isn't that western countries are better than expected, it is that they are worse. Look no further than the political activities by Chinese students in western universities.

The Chinese students with the education and wealth to study abroad are already among the top 5% in China. Their families are wealthy and powerful to start with. It's not shocking that many of them see negatives to living in the west as compared to China (in the west, they are on a more level playing field with the "masses").

Their experience does not translate to the remaining 95% who work manual jobs, with highly filtered information coming in, with no real hope or means of ever traveling abroad.

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Post by Buldak »

When I first read this headline, I thought it was referring to the social justice statements that NBA players now have the option to add to their jerseys in lieu of their names. Only after a double take did I realize that this is about the jerseys that fans customize and purchase for themselves!

Re: The NBA bans customers from putting ‘freehongkong’ on customized league jerseys

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Post by frogpelt »

Economics can explain so much.

There is a huge cost to the NBA if they stand with Hong Kong.

There is also a very small cost to the NBA and or more probably no cost at all if they fully embrace other movements such as BLM.

People upset about this are upset because the NBA (and other sports leagues and media) have become more socially active or political lately but they still refuse to speak up on topics that hurt their bottom line.

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