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SUSE to Acquire Rancher Labs

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Re: SUSE to Acquire Rancher Labs

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Post by ofrzeta »

candiddevmike wrote: post #89
ofrzeta wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It takes away privileges which arguably is a good thing but some things that require root containers wont't run. They pass the Kubernetes conformance suite only by removing those constraints.

That's not true at all. You can read their CNCF results yourself, nothing is disabled. And the conformance tooling works around these constraints by defining their own PSPs.

It would help if you provided a link to the CNCF results.

From what I see in https://github.com/openshift/origin/blob/master/test/extende... there are additional policies granted (search for "Disable container security").

Re: SUSE to Acquire Rancher Labs

#92

Post by LeoPanthera »

maratc wrote: post #6

The real news for me here is that SUSE still exists.

Every now and then I try a Linux distro other than SUSE (currently, openSUSE) and am left disappointed.

Mostly it is the size of the repo. openSUSE has everything. I guess that shouldn't be too surprising, the Build Service also builds packages for distributions not their own: https://build.opensuse.org

And of course there's really nothing as good as YaST for system configuration.

They also provide a full aarch64 OS for the Raspberry Pi, something which is surprisingly still quite rare.

Re: SUSE to Acquire Rancher Labs

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Post by smarterclayton »

ofrzeta wrote: post #91
candiddevmike wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not true at all. You can read their CNCF results yourself, nothing is disabled. And the conformance tooling works around these constraints by defining their own PSPs.

It would help if you provided a link to the CNCF results. From what I see in https://github.com/openshift/origin/blob/master/test/extende... there are additional policies granted (search for "Disable container security").

Yes, to run tests that root your whole cluster, the test running for conformance grants “root your cluster” permissions.

I occasionally regret the defaults we picked because people get frustrated that random software off the internet doesn’t run.

That said, every severe (or almost every) container runtime vulnerability in the last five years has not applied to a default pod running on OpenShift, so there’s at least some comfort there.

To grant “run as uid 0” is a one line RBAC as assignment. To grant “run as uid 0 and access host” is a similar statement.

https://github.com/openshift/origin/blob/master/test/extende...

Re: SUSE to Acquire Rancher Labs

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Post by acdha »

BossingAround wrote: post #63
acdha wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OpenShift is expensive and requires a significant O&M investment. If you want to use standard tools it’d be nice to have a managed standard Kubernetes option without paying for a lot of complexity your teams don’t want.

> If you want to use standard tools it’d be nice to have a managed standard Kubernetes option What standard tool doesn't work on OpenShift? It's certified to have 100% compatibility with Kubernetes, it just adds stuff, doesn't it?

I think there are some things which are either disabled or complicated by policy, not to mention the lag between Kubernetes updates shipping and OpenShift updating, but I was more going at the angle of paying for things you're not using. OpenShift's license costs are enough that you really have to justify it based on those services. The people I know who've avoided it did so because they couldn't justify the price when they mostly wanted Kubernetes but their teams had no interest in going away from their current build tools.

Re: SUSE to Acquire Rancher Labs

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Post by MangoCoffee »

aplanas wrote: post #58
necovek wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was actually a bit behind on the current SUSE ownership: last I remember was it getting acquired by Novell and entering into an agreement with Microsoft. I was thus confused by your comment. For those like me, SUSE was sold off again in 2018 after like 5 acquisitions, and has been an "independent business unit" for a while now.

TL;DR: https://www.eqtgroup.com/Investments/Current-Portfolio/suse/ But we are mostly independent now. I.e we choose the directions.

interesting...why a real estate group invest in software company?

Re: SUSE to Acquire Rancher Labs

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Post by smabie »

MangoCoffee wrote: post #95
aplanas wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TL;DR: https://www.eqtgroup.com/Investments/Current-Portfolio/suse/ But we are mostly independent now. I.e we choose the directions.

interesting...why a real estate group invest in software company?

It's a private equity company.

Re: SUSE to Acquire Rancher Labs

#98

Post by caymanjim »

aplanas wrote: post #57
caymanjim wrote: post #2

Another great product acquired by a mediocre behemoth. Here's hoping they can maintain enough independence to continue innovating.

I think that is this a bit unfair for SUSE. We (I am employee here) have a long tradition of innovation and failing in communication. We had OBS, that is some kind of build system as a service that guarantee reproducible builds and traceability of packages before that was a thing. We develop an automatically and deeply tested (openQA) rolling distribution (Tumbleweed) at the same time that other was telling in the fo…

This is fair, and I'll admit it's a knee-jerk reaction to a product I like disappearing into a larger organization and possibly being neglected or shut down, as I've seen happen many times before. I hope it means bigger and better support for Rancher.

Re: SUSE to Acquire Rancher Labs

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Post by battery423 »

bratao wrote: post #33
leonardteo wrote: post #3

Well congrats to the team for the exit. But I am really hoping that this will continue the great momentum that Rancher has. I've come to quite enjoy Rancher products. I think the work they are doing is fantastic and lowering the bar for entry into Kubernetes, especially for on-prem/bare metal. Just deployed 4 production RKE clusters on bare metal and also using K3S.

One more good experience. I created an cluster of dedicated servers ( 64 cores, 6TB of SSD storage and 256 GB of RAM, 1 GPU) using Rancher, for about 250 Euros/Month. This would cost at least 2k in a cloud such as AWS. There is a post about how I did with persistent storage here ( https://medium.com/@bratao/state-of-persistent-storage-in-k8... ) It really transformed my company DevOps. I´m VERY happy. If you can, use…

Thats a great depiction of the power of one person with proper knowledge!

Get a little bit of money (in comparision to all those shiny great things), build it, wing it and provide a huge benefit :)

Re: SUSE to Acquire Rancher Labs

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Post by justicezyx »

AlphaSite wrote: post #71
justicezyx wrote: post #66

Curious about the price. This appears the first significant acquisition of a k8s ecosystem start-up. (Remember the hadoop frenzy) The price might set a sentiment for the entire market segment for a while.

Heltio or CoreOS both predate this.

Heltio AFAIK is mostly a educational and consulting business? They dont have a kubernetes product, right?

CoreOS dont have a kubernetes product either, right?

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