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Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition with Ubuntu 20.04 LTS pre-installed

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Re: Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition with Ubuntu 20.04 LTS pre-installed

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I had considered buying the 15 inch XPS to replace my Thinkpad X1C (6th gen). I really need 32 Gigs to run kubernetes and compile GraalVM images locally. But the latest XPS 15 has the RAM soldered to the board. This means if I want 32 Gigs, I have to pony up the premium price. They do have a Precision that is basically the same specs that DOES allow upgrading the RAM. The biggest problem is, Dell's website has the op…

Why not the Thinkpad T-series then?

Re: Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition with Ubuntu 20.04 LTS pre-installed

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At this point, waiting for the mobile Ryzens to appear across the laptop ranges seems like a good idea. They've crammed 8 cores instead of 4 into the same TDP and made laptop chips that are in the same ballpark as the dekstop counterparts: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Intel-i7-10610U-vs-AMD-... The graphics should also be better than the Intel ones. So far the only interesting laptop I've seen is the Lenovo T…

As you mentioned, AMD laptops are gimped, either by an inferior screen, lower amount of memory (imagine 8GB limit for an 8-core Ryzen or 16GB limit for a dual core i3) or some other specification is not up to high end standard.

And no Thunderbolt for patent reasons

Re: Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition with Ubuntu 20.04 LTS pre-installed

#93

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We have bought 7 or 8 for my startup in the past 4 years. Only one failure that happened at like month 3. Seems at least average reliability? In the same time we have had 2 of 4 appple laptops need a new motherboard / some drastic problem

> need a new motherboard / some drastic problem Only because apple won’t do simple repairs. Eg, blwn capacitor worth 40 cent? New motherboard worth hundreds! [1] Of course, to the end user, the effect is the same... [1] https://youtu.be/o2_SZ4tfLns and https://youtu.be/K1A9y4S60kg for just two examples

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I find it highly unlikely that there are repair contractors with people sitting behind magnifying glasses and soldering irons.

I would suspect that toss and replace is the norm across the whole spectrum of hardware sellers.

You could debate Apple's design choices like... say... riveted keyboards, and they'd argue durability as a retort, but I don't think they're any better or worse than others in terms of warranty work.

Re: Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition with Ubuntu 20.04 LTS pre-installed

#94
I am running Ubuntu 20.04 on a Dell XPS 13 9370 from a couple years ago. It’s amazing! First time I’ve had a Linux distro that really works well including battery life, sleep, devices etc.

I had previously given up on this and was excited that WSL2 was finally available, but installed 20.04 and haven’t looked back.

Re: Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition with Ubuntu 20.04 LTS pre-installed

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Agree with this but Costco doesn't sell the Ubuntu system AFAIK. I bought my XPS at Costco, wiped Windows and installed Ubuntu manually. Still saved money over buying the Ubuntu version elsewhere.

The Ubuntu version is released soo many months after the main version. It really sucks having to wait that long. And to be limited to the XPS 13.

It takes some time to get full support for the very newest hardware in Linux. This is nothing new. And it's why buying a previous-gen model at a discount can be a better deal overall.

Re: Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition with Ubuntu 20.04 LTS pre-installed

#97

Looks like it comes with Killer WiFi. Pretty questionable choice there.

From their website:

> We neither develop nor support the Linux drivers for our devices, and this is common, as free and open source is the Linux way.

> As such, if you encounter an issue with your Killer Networking adapter in Linux, your best, quickest, and most accurate line of support is going to be the community, either for the Linux distribution that you are using, or the driver itself.

Easy way out I guess.

Re: Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition with Ubuntu 20.04 LTS pre-installed

#98

Looks like it comes with Killer WiFi. Pretty questionable choice there.

From their website: > We neither develop nor support the Linux drivers for our devices, and this is common, as free and open source is the Linux way. > As such, if you encounter an issue with your Killer Networking adapter in Linux, your best, quickest, and most accurate line of support is going to be the community, either for the Linux distribution that you are using, or the driver itself. Easy way out I guess.

That's interesting. So they don't actually provide any meaningful support at all over a vendor that doesn't officially support Linux. It's just pr bullshit. Here's your laptop with Linux pre-installed, but if you have problems, though shit. Fuck that.

Re: Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition with Ubuntu 20.04 LTS pre-installed

#99

Good to see this because it means demand for new Linux laptops is still here (or even growing) but why wouldn’t someone go for a System76 laptop instead that comes with custom, FOSS firmware too?

well, take a look at System76 laptops and Dell XPS. Dell looks amazing and System76 not so much. also build quality, screens can be important.

also availability and warranty is important for companies too.

Re: Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition with Ubuntu 20.04 LTS pre-installed

#100

I applaud the change to a 16:10 screen (the ratio used in all Apple laptops and sadly few others for years). The extra vertical space for the same area is very welcome; 16:9 feels very cramped at laptop sizes once you add a few menu bars and headers and banners. I hope more laptop manufacturers decide to go this direction.

Not all Apple computers.

iPads are growing up into computers, and have a 4:3.

It's odd, but it's really hard to find high-quality computers these days. Everyone skimps corners by giving things like 16:9 instead of 4:3. That makes sense on the low-end, but the top-of-the-line just doesn't seem to exist much anymore.

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