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How Zoom works [slides]
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Re: How Zoom works [slides]
#92Title is "How Zoom works". It's a good article with valid points but nothing about Skype. The editorialized title "Turns out Zoom isn't all that different to Skype after all" has no appreciation for how hostile Skype's technology has become in the past 10 years. It went from nicely working Qt program that worked well on OSX, Linux, and Windows to Electron beast that maybe works on Windows, could possibly be mining bi…
Skype is dead in the water, has been suffering for years since the push to Teams started. Teams behaves a lot more stable in an enterprise environment, whether that is by design or neglect I'm not sure.
RIP Skype.
Re: How Zoom works [slides]
#93Again, what about Zoom's remote control feature (or annotate/whiteboard)? Is any competitor doing that?
Didn't include that, but that's a great feature.
Re: How Zoom works [slides]
#94Title is "How Zoom works". It's a good article with valid points but nothing about Skype. The editorialized title "Turns out Zoom isn't all that different to Skype after all" has no appreciation for how hostile Skype's technology has become in the past 10 years. It went from nicely working Qt program that worked well on OSX, Linux, and Windows to Electron beast that maybe works on Windows, could possibly be mining bi…
The linux client does work. Its pretty bad, but the one redeeming feature that it has over Zoom is that I can turn off incoming video. I am in a country with poor internet, and when no one is sharing their screen, I prefer to turn off incoming (and outgoing) video. Others can continue to benefit from seeing each other on video, while I get to talk and hear them properly.
It's not just that the Linux client works, it's also getting updates every once in a while.
Unlike Teams client.
Re: How Zoom works [slides]
#95Title is "How Zoom works". It's a good article with valid points but nothing about Skype. The editorialized title "Turns out Zoom isn't all that different to Skype after all" has no appreciation for how hostile Skype's technology has become in the past 10 years. It went from nicely working Qt program that worked well on OSX, Linux, and Windows to Electron beast that maybe works on Windows, could possibly be mining bi…
> and I think it stopped working on Linux altogethe
Linux client works great! Probably precisely because it's now an electron app.
Re: How Zoom works [slides]
#96When everything is chromium there is no competitive advantage for any of these chat applications. For example, before, Skype used to be based on the Qt framework and it used less resources and actually had more features - like universal push-to-talk and better integration into the OS.
Welcome to the future - lets Javascript all the things... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SCfNhyIo_U
Re: How Zoom works [slides]
#97My main complaints are two:
- It takes 4-5 clicks to create a meeting and share the URL, which is what I want to do most of the time, multiple times a day. I end up preferring Skype (when with only 1-2 other people) just because of the hassle of "Creating a meeting".
- The UI randomly moves around: the chat button and the chat, for example, are in a place when Zoom is in window mode, in a different place when Zoom is fullscreen, and yet another place when I'm sharing the screen. If I have to teach, I prepare the various zoom windows (chat, participants, videos) in a certain configuration. As soon as I start sharing screen everything changes. It goes fullscreen whenever it likes, and all that.
Re: How Zoom works [slides]
#98When everything is chromium there is no competitive advantage for any of these chat applications. For example, before, Skype used to be based on the Qt framework and it used less resources and actually had more features - like universal push-to-talk and better integration into the OS. Welcome to the future - lets Javascript all the things... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SCfNhyIo_U
^ This. Skype as an app was downgraded, features gone never to return. I know nobody in MS uses it, because otherwise they d know of its glaring bugs
Re: How Zoom works [slides]
#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
But it worked... nicely. Meaning it did what it was supposed to do at least, quickly, with little resources, few bugs etc.
I'm an Electron-hater in general, but are you forgetting the fact Skype for Linux didn't support group video calls until the Electron version?
Thats no reason to switch to electon though
Re: How Zoom works [slides]
#100I find the metaphor of a "call" in Skype or Google Meet easier to use for chats with relatives than the metaphor of a "meeting". The latter one works great in a business setting, when you "schedule a meeting" and post its details to Slack, or email them, or stick them in a calendar; but when you want an immediate one-on-one chat, it's so much easier to "call" a person.
Zoom weirds me out in that in order to chat with someone you need to "create a meeting", then copy the meeting url/id, and send it via a different channel to the person you want to chat with.