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536 was ‘the worst year to be alive’ (2018)

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And this is why we, as a species, need to embrace science and technology, and engineer solutions to ensure our survival and prosperity.

We need geoengineering now. If a volcanic eruption occurs and blocks out a significant portion of light, we need a way to compensate for it(solar mirroring/concentration?), or eliminate the particulates.

Re: 536 was ‘the worst year to be alive’ (2018)

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The 2010 eruption of Iceland's Eyjafjallajökull [0] was a small sample of the perturbations that a volcanic event can have on day to day lives. And it was a relatively small eruption. Anything much larger than that will most likely have devastating effects on modern society on pretty much all levels and it's not really a matter of "if" but "when". Besides eruptions, many other scarier events can cause huge shifts on…

Yeah, UK kept harassing Iceland because of that mess with Icelandic banks. Then suddenly, volcano erupted, airplanes started having difficulties landing in Heathrow, and the harassment suddenly stopped.

Re: 536 was ‘the worst year to be alive’ (2018)

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One angle on the TP problem is that we didn't just have a shock, we had a shock and then lasting change in demand. I saw an article that says demand for residential sized TP rolls is up 40% because a lot of bathroom visits are happening in homes that used to happen in work places.

I know that, but the point remains that the supply chain has not “recovered” in any meaningful sense. Capitalism, in fact, guarantees it will not (too expensive to switch production from commercial to residential TP). We’re going to be seeing this phenomenon until people can go back to work.

on the other hand, commercial-sized TP works just as well and is readily available. it just won't fit on your nice TP holder. if this is what capitalism failing looks like, I'd say it's not so bad.

Re: 536 was ‘the worst year to be alive’ (2018)

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In what sense have we “recovered” from supply chain disruptions? I go to the store and still routinely see empty shelves where TP should be; have experienced meat shortages in recent days; and stores are still rationing things like hand sanitizer (when you can find it), canned goods, meat, and rice.

Personally, I haven't seen any empty shelves or shortages since early May, and the only rationing I've seen in June is on hand sanitizer and instant noodles. I guess I don't know whether my area is uncommonly good or yours is uncommonly bad.

I'm in a mid-Atlantic state, the shortages (at all the major grocery stores) stopped after the first several weeks post initial hoarding rush. That's about two months ago now. The grocery stores here are stocked normally, you'd never know a pandemic were going on.

Re: 536 was ‘the worst year to be alive’ (2018)

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Since this article, there has been new research indicating that the Plague of Justinian may not have been as bad as previously thought. https://www.princeton.edu/news/2019/12/02/maybe-first-plague...

That claim should be greeted with skepticism, if you are interested in learning more please consider this reply:

https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/The-%E2%80%98Justinian...

Re: 536 was ‘the worst year to be alive’ (2018)

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Doesn't "not good" in this context mean NEVER. Are there any native tribes/peoples that had a writing system before European contact? AFAICT, it's one of the main causes so many native languages are dying/extinct.

Writing developed in America long before Europeans showed up and continued to be used until Europeans showed up, but the Europeans destroyed most books they could find and forced the natives to learn the colonizers' languages. That's the main cause why so many native languages are dying/extinct. Further reading: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesoamerican_writing_systems

It looks like writing developed in present-day Mexico and never made it north of the desert border (Mojave/ Sonoran/ Chihuahua). So NONE of the estimated 296 languages spoken by natives in US and Canada had a written language that we have evidence of. [0]

[0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_languages_of_the_Am...

Re: 536 was ‘the worst year to be alive’ (2018)

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The 2010 eruption of Iceland's Eyjafjallajökull [0] was a small sample of the perturbations that a volcanic event can have on day to day lives. And it was a relatively small eruption. Anything much larger than that will most likely have devastating effects on modern society on pretty much all levels and it's not really a matter of "if" but "when". Besides eruptions, many other scarier events can cause huge shifts on…

> To me this is the main reason that going multiplanetary or space habitat based is basically the only way to escape this inevitable doom

I disagree with this. Leaving the Earth doesn't remove random acts of doom from happening, and in fact, they are more lethal in unfamiliar and hostile environments.

If we do not figure out how to handle such black swan events on our home planet, we have no chance of handling them in space or on other planets.

Re: 536 was ‘the worst year to be alive’ (2018)

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These kinds of cataclysmic volcanic eruptions could happen today right? What's.......our intended process for dealing with this? Are there any technical solutions for dispersing ash from the atmosphere? I know this is a stupidly naive question to some degree - how do you prevent acts of god, but I am curious if someone has thought about it.

one of the attributes of an act of god is being unpreventable by humans. in the event of something like this, having the supplies to just weather the fallout would be best. a years worth of supplies on-hand would be a good start.

> one of the attributes of an act of god is being unpreventable by humans.

That may be, but the set of things that humans can prevent gets larger over time. For example, 100 years ago, an asteroid hitting the earth would be an act of God we could do nothing about, but today it is at least within the realm of possibility that we could observe a large asteroid on a collision course and send in a spacecraft or missile to divert it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asteroid_impact_avoidance

Re: 536 was ‘the worst year to be alive’ (2018)

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How would green/grow houses help in such a situation?

The cold weather would kill crops in all but probably tropical latitudes. The lack of sunlight will slow plant growth. Placing plants in greenhouses / growhouses would keep them warm and you could supplement sunlight with LED lighting to feed the plants.

But creating enough greenhouse capacity to feed 8 billion people would be incredibly difficult. Bottom line would be, if something causes sunlight to be largely blocked around the world for a sustained period of time, the number of people who would starve to death would likely number in the billions.

Re: 536 was ‘the worst year to be alive’ (2018)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know that, but the point remains that the supply chain has not “recovered” in any meaningful sense. Capitalism, in fact, guarantees it will not (too expensive to switch production from commercial to residential TP). We’re going to be seeing this phenomenon until people can go back to work.

on the other hand, commercial-sized TP works just as well and is readily available. it just won't fit on your nice TP holder. if this is what capitalism failing looks like, I'd say it's not so bad.

I didn’t say it was a failure of capitalism, merely a property. Had it become necessary to do so, yes, I would have either ordered some commercial TP, or bought a bidet.

Now, if you want to talk about how we have zillions of brands of TP, but they’re all made by the same handful of companies (illusion of choice), I might argue that’s a failure mode of capitalism.

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