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Re: SpaceX launches 60 more Starlink satellites

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We lived for a year in some mountains in Mexico in an off-the-grid cabin. We became accustomed to everything (energy starvation, driving 30 mins to the nearest village, 2 hours to the nearest city, etc) except the lack of connectivity. I bought one of those huge Wifi antenna to connect to an open Wifi of a rural school a couple of kilometers away. It was empty after 2pm so we had 4Mbps just for ourselves all afternoo…

> huge Wifi antenna to connect to an open Wifi of a rural school a couple of kilometers away That's impressive, but how did this work from the school's side? Wouldn't they need a huge wifi antenna too?

They had regular wifi access points, nothing fancy.

The huge antenna [1] was connected to an Alfa R36 hotspot which was fairly powerful. I guess that's why it worked.

[1] https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81Zwin2Z-ML...

Re: SpaceX launches 60 more Starlink satellites

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Even for those of us living in a suburban area, it will be great having another option to use as a bludgeon against Comcast. Right now they can just laugh if you say you're going to cancel due to a rate hike, because they know the next-fastest provider is 4 Mbps.

Whats wrong with 4G? Cellular isn't the fastest, but I still get 70 Mbps and 20 millisecond pings on a pretty regular basis. I'd say it's certainly good enough to use if your cable company wants to charge too much.

4 Mbps not 4G

Re: SpaceX launches 60 more Starlink satellites

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Yeah, if it really does deliver ~25ms latency and up to 1GBPS, work from anywhere becomes much more literal. Currently a lot of remote work and things like multiplayer games are limited to areas with reliable broadband. But if you can get that anywhere... it'll be amazing and have a profound effect.

It will work from anywhere after about 90 more launches and thousands of ground relays being installed, and the antenna is the size of a watermelon. So "anywhere" would be limited to vanlife on up, in a place that doesn't have trees, in the markets initially served, which will likely be rural US. But starlink v2? I'll be on a cute Panamanian island :)

Do you know if being able to use it on a boat in the ocean will be part of v1 or v2?

I sail a bit, and I've always wanted to sail the world, but giving up a decent internet connection has always been the main deal-breaker.

Re: SpaceX launches 60 more Starlink satellites

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As someone who lives in the mountains of Puerto Rico and has to rely on "unlimited" cell phone coverage that data caps me and satellite internet that also has data caps.... I can't wait until starlink is up and running and we may have an option for high speed, low latency, internet for us who hate cities and love nature :)

We lived for a year in some mountains in Mexico in an off-the-grid cabin. We became accustomed to everything (energy starvation, driving 30 mins to the nearest village, 2 hours to the nearest city, etc) except the lack of connectivity. I bought one of those huge Wifi antenna to connect to an open Wifi of a rural school a couple of kilometers away. It was empty after 2pm so we had 4Mbps just for ourselves all afternoo…

Where do you buy a WiFi antenna like that? Would you have any example links to what they're like?

Re: SpaceX launches 60 more Starlink satellites

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As someone who lives in the mountains of Puerto Rico and has to rely on "unlimited" cell phone coverage that data caps me and satellite internet that also has data caps.... I can't wait until starlink is up and running and we may have an option for high speed, low latency, internet for us who hate cities and love nature :)

If it becomes available i buy or restore an 18 century cannon-ship, over the day i sail and play captain sparrow, and in the night i play StarTreckCrew-VR in my captain quarter's ;-)

Re: SpaceX launches 60 more Starlink satellites

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This was the fifth time this particular booster launched and landed successfully. Incredible.

Like the Space Shuttle.

Over the life of the program, dividing total program R&D + flight operations cost by number of flights, each space shuttle launch cost between $900m to $1.5 billion. Not exactly an affordable reusable vehicle.

Re: SpaceX launches 60 more Starlink satellites

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I'm so excited for Starlink! As a solo founder I do all of my support, but I like to frequently go off-roading and camping outside of cell service. I have a satellite messenger for critical things, but it still leaves me feeling quite anxious to go on extended trips. If I can toss a starlink dish in a briefcase and get fast affordable internet in the Sierra's, life will be good.

I wanted to move to rural OR/WA a couple of years ago, but couldn't find a single property with high-speed internet. This is (hopefully) a game-changer.

You didn't look hard enough - for example big chunks of rural Okanogan county are covered by WISP services from a company called NCI. Same in many other areas.

Re: SpaceX launches 60 more Starlink satellites

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Just a question. Will we actually see those things in the nightsky? I hope not...

One of the satellites in yesterday's launch has a test visor system that should make it invisible to the naked eye once it has precessed into it's final orbit (which takes a couple months). If successful they'll apply it to all satellites so only the small portion of the constellation launched to date will be visible during dawn & dusk. The lifespan of these satellites is 5 years.

Re: SpaceX launches 60 more Starlink satellites

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In any urban area, they'd be super oversubscribed. I haven't been following Starlink super closely lately, but IIRC each satellite is really only capable of supporting 20 users at the full advertised speed. Even though there's a handful of satellites visible from a given location at a given time, it's not enough to support urban (or perhaps even suburban) areas.

Googling this suggests we are seeing 100gbps per satellite... at 100mbps that's enough for 1000 saturated connections per satellite and a decent multiple of that number of users by oversubscribing/multiplexing. It's still not enough bandwidth to compete with city-ISPs in cities. [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/Starlink/comments/duw4o4/starlink_1...

That reddit comment doesn't go into much depth, do you know if that 100gbps number is actually the sat to ground budget? IIRC, the majority of the starlink satellites' bandwidth is for sat to sat transmissions (routing data from other sats to the nearest ground station).

Edit: also IIRC, SpaceX said that Starlink will offer up plans up to 1Gbps

Re: SpaceX launches 60 more Starlink satellites

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Even for those of us living in a suburban area, it will be great having another option to use as a bludgeon against Comcast. Right now they can just laugh if you say you're going to cancel due to a rate hike, because they know the next-fastest provider is 4 Mbps.

Whats wrong with 4G? Cellular isn't the fastest, but I still get 70 Mbps and 20 millisecond pings on a pretty regular basis. I'd say it's certainly good enough to use if your cable company wants to charge too much.

At least at my location and with my carrier, 4G and 5G don't give anything close to those speeds
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