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Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

monocasa wrote: post #85
SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The crew headed by the white reporter moved when police asked, they were behind “the line”. The crew that was arrested should not have been but it’s not the same scenario. Are you sure it’s as simple as “this guy was black”? If you aren’t sure it seems like a bad accusation to make.

The crew headed by the black reporter was complying and simply asking where was OK to move to when they were arrested.

Yes, that is what happened. I never said otherwise or disagreed.

The arrested crew did not move. They asked for clarification and were arrested. That’s wrong.

But the crew that was not arrested did move. They didn’t ask for clarification, the just moved then went back to reporting.

The accusation above is that the white, Latino and black guy were arrested because the reporter is black. Is there anything to support that?

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by take_a_breath »

epistasis wrote: post #18
myrion wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, it happened live on air, they were clearly identified as CNN and willing to comply with police orders - making the police's claim laughable. I wonder what those officers were thinking, arresting a reporter on live camera.

I think the level of impunity of "I am the law" instead of laws being laws, has taken over far too many in the police department. The level of police misconduct that's been captured in camera in the last few days is disturbing. There's always one police officer that rushes into a peaceful situation, from behind, and starts violence. This sort of assault on humans is taken to be their responsibility, apparently, and a…

==I think the level of impunity of "I am the law" instead of laws being laws, has taken over far too many in the police department.==

Never heard it put quite this way. Well said!

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by streb-lo »

spoiledtechie wrote: post #15
maskedinvader wrote: post #8

Isn't this situational irony ? reporters covering the events that were a result of unreasonable police actions themselves were subject to the unreasonable actions of the police.

I wouldn't call it unreasonable. They were told to clear the streets. They didn't actually clear the street. They stayed on the street. Reporters not following directions.

There's a girl in shorts standing around behind the police -- you're going to tell me she's an officer?

They are just trying to get the camera crew out of there.

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by ClumsyPilot »

sowbug wrote: post #61
tehwebguy wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Instructions from some random cop are not laws

In my state, one must comply with any order from a police officer who is in uniform and acting in the performance of his or her duties. This is a law with criminal consequences.

My neighbour was 'arrested' by two men in police uniform, they later murdered him, burned his body, threw remains in the river and sold his car for parts. Him family only found out after the car parts showed up in repair shops.

So not everyone in uniform is a police officer.

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by acobster »

snazz wrote: post #14
myrion wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, it happened live on air, they were clearly identified as CNN and willing to comply with police orders - making the police's claim laughable. I wonder what those officers were thinking, arresting a reporter on live camera.

(I'm a resident of the Minneapolis suburbs) At this point, from some of my friends in the city, it sounds like there just isn't much oversight at all---they've now been caught on video taking guns from people with valid licenses and now arresting the press. I don't think that we can effectively apply logic when the police system seems so disorganized.

They're highly organized. I think perhaps a better word for their actions is "unjustified," or if you're feeling less charitable, "unjustifiable."

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by iso1631 »

xxs wrote: post #48
zenexer wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That flag indicates users flagged it--it doesn't mean any action has been taken by HN staff. It's essentially been reported to moderators by users, but unless you see the "[dead]" tag, it remains public and alive on HN. User-flagged content can be pushed down on the rankings (comparable to a downvote), but if enough people upvote, it shouldn't make much difference.

The post is gone effectively from HN already. There are enough 'new' accounts (incl. top post) that just press 'flag'

It's current story #24, with 222 up points.

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by JSavageOne »

How is it legal for a police offer to arrest someone without any warning, without even telling them why they're being arrested, and without probable cause? What are the repercussions for these officers for falsely arresting people? Do they suffer any consequences, or do they suffer no punishment for this injustice?

This is extremely disturbing, and further evidence that the U.S. is a police state. I've never felt more ashamed of my country.

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by stronglikedan »

papercrane wrote: post #23
spoiledtechie wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't call it unreasonable. They were told to clear the streets. They didn't actually clear the street. They stayed on the street. Reporters not following directions.

According to CNN's timeline the police asked them to move at 5:09 AM, the reporter asked where they wanted them, at 5:11 AM the police arrested them. The reporter was not given the chance to follow directions. https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/george-floyd-protest-update...

I'm not commenting on this particular case, since we don't have all of the facts yet, but it should only take seconds to comply with a lawful order, not minutes.

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by take_a_breath »

throwaway894345 wrote: post #89
fiblye wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure what your point is. Is it that it's okay to arrest them if they're not live? (Not attacking you--just hard to understand intention through text) It really seems like their intention was to cook up charges, then realized they screwed the pooch and pretended it's all okay because now they're free. It's not. The intimidation has lasting effects and they know it.

> I'm not sure what your point is. Is it that it's okay to arrest them if they're not live? The point is that it's not even in the officers' own self-interest.

Neither is pushing your knee so hard into someone's neck that they choke to death. It still happened.
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