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Oldest 'nearly complete' HIV genome found in forgotten tissue sample from 1966

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Or put it like this. In NY alone there have been 23K deaths due to covid 19. 911 had about 3K dead. This was over 7 911 events in a matter of 3 months. Nationally it's about 33 911s in 3 months.

It's like five jetliner crashes every day for the last three months.

Air-travel is so safe, yet humans insist on being completely paranoid about it.

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>The second option was to reduce the occurrence of those behaviors, namely intravenous recreational drug use The Reagan administration banned needle exchanges: https://www.csis.org/blogs/smart-global-health/history-ban-f... >, and unprotected sex with large numbers of sexual partners, which is particularly widespread among homosexual males. The continuing pathologization of homosexuals reduced their access to medical…

Conservatives continue to ban needle exchanges in some of the areas with the highest rates of HIV in the US.

Source? I tried to find out this but couldn’t. Would help me make a compelling argument to a conservative friend.

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The bathouse behaviour is still present. I went to a korean spa in nyc with my kids and ran into a group of young men having an orgy in one of the spas which is not private. I was so embarassed, didnt know what to say to my kids, they saw a live scene. We never talked about it. So, some of that stuborness in behaviour is something rampant in the gay community. They have for example, drug fueled parties and have conti…

I wish I had the option to downvote, because thinly veiled homophobia is really a disgusting thing to see on a supposedly enlightened site. As if straight people don’t sleep around and have drug-fueled sex parties. And my god, swingers were and are a thing - as if gay men have a monopoly on getting laid. The behavior is not rampant in the gay community; “they” do not have drug-fueled sex parties and fuck for days; th…

> supposedly enlightened site

Yea... about that. The tech articles are fine usually, but the social articles bring out some crazies. Same as anywhere else.

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I remember how little was known in the beginning, when it was called GRID. For a while it was theorized in the media that semen hitting the bloodstream was causing the immune system to freak out; my friends, who had just started puberty, asked me (as the designated science nerd) what I thought of that, as they had somewhat random scenarios of nocturnal emissions striking road rash from skateboarding. I thought it unlikely, given what I knew of history.

We had very little idea of what constituted "transmissible" and what did not for a period of time, and so while our parents had "free love" and The Pill, with the biggest risk being herpes, at least a section of my generation got "sex = death" internalized on top of all of the other apocalyptic gloom.

Of course, even what would be transmissible was subject to propaganda: on one side, you had people arguing for any gay sex being a risk, but on the other side, some activists insisted that heterosexual intercourse was exactly and precisely as risky as homosexual (male) intercourse. Quite a lot of misinformation floating around.

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I didn't understand the AIDS epidemic until I listened to a podcast [1] where they interviewed a gay survivor. I can't imagine my friends dying off one by one around me from an unknown specter. The government pretending you didn't exist and ignoring you because it was a "gay problem". Society demonizing you. He said that even after it was understood that AIDS was not transmissible by touch, morgues would refuse to ac…

And the band played on. Great film that tells the story

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If you have time I would recommend two movies that touches deeply upon this topic. They are 'Philadelphia'[1] which garnered a 'Best Actor' Oscar for Tom Hanks and 'And the band played on'[2] starring Mathew Modine.

'Philadelphia' a fictional movie that touches on the social stigma associated with HIV and 'And the band played on' captures the politics of why it was ignored by Reagan and his supporters for so long and the sad politics and scientific infighting in the chase for a cure.

Both are incredible movies.

[1] https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107818/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_3

[2] https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106273/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

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> The first was to spend billions of dollars hoping to find a cure while certain behaviors continued to spread the virus. And yet here we are, with governments spending billions of dollars to find a cure when we can stop the spread of COVID-19 by reducing certain behaviors. The difference in government response to the (ongoing, btw) AIDS crisis and COVID-19 has a hell of a lot to do with the fact that COVID-19 is not…

Funnily enough, in Italy (where I grew up) there was next to no association in the public mind between HIV/AIDS and homosexuality. It was linked to drug use and sexual promiscuity, but it was drilled into us that any kind of unprotected sex (and for most people, that was automatically construed as heterosexual sex) was a risky behaviour. I was honestly very surprised when, towards the end of the nineties and early 20…

Sure, but getting AIDS from "regular" sex is pretty rare and difficult. The chance of infection is very low.

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Funnily enough, in Italy (where I grew up) there was next to no association in the public mind between HIV/AIDS and homosexuality. It was linked to drug use and sexual promiscuity, but it was drilled into us that any kind of unprotected sex (and for most people, that was automatically construed as heterosexual sex) was a risky behaviour. I was honestly very surprised when, towards the end of the nineties and early 20…

Sure, but getting AIDS from "regular" sex is pretty rare and difficult. The chance of infection is very low.

My point is that the governmental message was deliberately tailored to address promiscuity and unprotected sex, rather than single out any specific demographic or minority.

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I didn't understand the AIDS epidemic until I listened to a podcast [1] where they interviewed a gay survivor. I can't imagine my friends dying off one by one around me from an unknown specter. The government pretending you didn't exist and ignoring you because it was a "gay problem". Society demonizing you. He said that even after it was understood that AIDS was not transmissible by touch, morgues would refuse to ac…

In 2002, I was back in my hometown after some years away. By then they estimated that HIV infection was running at 1/3 of the population. I had a job that took me most days to the local cemetery, and was harrowed by the next round of graves freshly dug, most three foot long. I imagine you can guess why they were so short. And if that sounds angry, it is anger - still - but not directed at you, OP. I went to the hospital on one occasion to see the child of a friend, a little boy called AK, draw his last breath. His name was a reference to the machine gun; a child of a revolution I didn’t understand.

I’m not sure why I write this. I never really spoke of it before. I think I found your comment deeply moving.

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