Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

twitter.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

91–100 of 1001 posts

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

#91

Post by noobermin »

chroma wrote: post #89
noobermin wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not trying to valorize Jack, but why is it so hard to believe they just finally feel some level of responsibility? While you should always keep an eye out for more banal motivations, at some point one can only tolerate so much.

I agree that Jack is well-intentioned, but I think he's making a huge mistake by choosing a half measure. Twitter's current policy allows Trump to claim he's being silenced while simultaneously allowing him to get his message out to his Twitter followers. It's the worst of both worlds. Twitter should either let him tweet whatever he wants or ban him.

I said this above, I agree. Half measures will just upset everyone.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

#92

Post by Aeolun »

shiado wrote: post #86
slg wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is using past violence as a threat of imminent violence while the other accounts you mentioned will generally reference violence indirectly or in the past tense. That is an important distinction.

That's a fair point. I'm not defending Trump's tweet, but it seems defining violence glorification is arbitrary. It would be funny if Twitter adds a rule that says you can be an organization whose whole purpose is to make devices that kill people as long as you don't glorify making devices that kill people.

I think that's pretty much what they're already saying?

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

#93

Post by Aeolun »

midasz wrote: post #7

Wow. This man needs a lesson on how to deescalate a situation properly. Will this heavy handed approach really make people less angry? I doubt it..

I think it's interesting how he's threatening China about HK on one hand, but on the other hand being a lot more literal and aggressive towards his own people.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

#94

Post by mike_d »

roenxi wrote: post #63

This seems like a dubious foundation for Twitter to start with. If Trump controls the National Guard there is a definite public interest in knowing when he is likely to deploy the National Guard. It'd be headline news after the fact; it should be telegraphed beforehand. Trump might be bluffing, but Twitter can't possibly know.

> If Trump controls the National Guard there is a definite public interest

But he doesn't.

Also it is illegal for the federal government to use the military as a police force: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

#95

Post by AgentME »

101404 wrote: post #81
fsflover wrote: post #39

Time for Trump to use Mastodon.

That would be really funny. Imagine all the devs and supporters of Mastodon trying hard to come up with a pretext why it is okay to block him from the network via technical changes.

It's pretty established that individual Mastodon nodes are able to impose the rules they want and network with whichever Mastodon nodes they want. And many popular Mastodon nodes have stricter rules than Twitter, so it would hardly be surprising if they shunned someone who broke rules on Twitter.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

#96

Post by vsssk »

s5300 wrote: post #11
2019-nCoV wrote: post #3

How is that glorifying violence?

Well, looting had already started hours before he'd posted this. That being said - the President of the United States, just stated on one of the largest social media platforms used in the U.S., that citizens of the U.S. are now to be shot. From his words, immediately. It could even be viewed as "they should've already been shot at" If you don't understand how this is glorifying violence, I don't think you can be made…

I'm reading the tweet more like 'I will authorize the use of deadly force by the military against the looters'. Although I could see several interpretations

But I think the real thing people aren't able to come to grips with is how Trump uses the media in such a style that gives him all plausible deniability, builds outrage AND builds support. All at once.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

#97

Post by senectus1 »

haha, good. but I dont envy Twitter management. they have stepped onto a very slippery slope.

and one they cant make a "winning" decision about. however this works out, Twitter will lose.

As much as I hate FB and dont use it, they have made the "safer" decision.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

#98

Post by user982 »

Aeolun wrote: post #93
midasz wrote: post #7

Wow. This man needs a lesson on how to deescalate a situation properly. Will this heavy handed approach really make people less angry? I doubt it..

I think it's interesting how he's threatening China about HK on one hand, but on the other hand being a lot more literal and aggressive towards his own people.

He has never considered them "his own people."

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

#99

Post by paganel »

gentaro wrote: post #45
paganel wrote: post #20

I said it yesterday and got downvotes, Twitter’s CEO decided to pick sides in the political battle so they should expect what’s coming to them.

Sounds like maybe you should take the hint. It's not "taking sides" to point out that you're glorifying violence if you as the president are threatening to deploy military force against protestors.

I've done my own share of protesting (living in Eastern Europe forces you to do that sometimes) and we never resorted to looting. If we had done so I would have expected the powers that be to take some counter-measures that would have involved more than strong verbal reprimands, yes.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

#100

Post by tracer4201 »

s5300 wrote: post #27
paganel wrote: post #20

I said it yesterday and got downvotes, Twitter’s CEO decided to pick sides in the political battle so they should expect what’s coming to them.

I don't understand. He broke their TOS. They applied a punishment in line with their TOS. Do heads of state somewhere not-stated to the public have some sort of social media diplomatic immunity?

He attacks people on Twitter and pretends he can literally do what he wants without consequences — whether from the government and rule of law or in this case, a private company.

You’re getting downvoted for a fair call out. There’s a deeper rot in this country where a select group believes freedom and fairness is something they can own and define, screw reality or objective fact. Anything else is biased and a conspiracy paid for by Soros, Obama, Hillary, Muslims, Hispanics, and the “swamp”.

Post reply on HN