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Re: It's 2020 and I'm using image maps

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Post by reaperducer »

jes5199 wrote: post #61
at_a_remove wrote: post #53

It's funny this came up. I've been doing webstuff and getting paid for it since about 1996 or 1997; imagemaps were a pretty big deal back then. Recently, I found myself thinking, "How do they do that these days?" I have gotten out of the webbish stuff and even before that, I tended to stick to the tried and true. I don't think the need for something very much like imagemaps will ever go away. The lure of arbitrary po…

the modern web just doesn’t do that, though. I don’t think I’ve seen a clickable polygon in the last 15 years

I saw a site not too long ago that had a map of U.S. states with state changes on hover and click. It was just a bunch of SVG's in an . So it's possible, but it takes some braining.

Re: It's 2020 and I'm using image maps

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Post by app4soft »

alex_duf wrote: post #58
app4soft wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Because you'd have to download an app like this and then trust that it won't install malware or spyware or do anything else malicious. How you would check that web app, which JavaScript/WebAssembly source/binary should be firstly loaded into your browser from 3rd-party website, would not "install malware or spyware or do anything else malicious"?

That's as trustworthy as your web browser, which is pretty good at sandboxing nowadays.

Has you ever read changelogs of Firefox & Chrome/Chromium? There are tons of issues documented related to sandboxing & security each new release happen.

Re: It's 2020 and I'm using image maps

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Post by app4soft »

CyberDildonics wrote: post #75
app4soft wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It runs completely on the client-side, so all the editing, previewing, rendering, and exporting is done using web technologies. If so, why just not use native desktop/mobile video editor app instead?

This would be accessible anywhere on any computer hooked up to the internet, even potentially a phone, tablet, raspberry pi, your grandma's computer, etc. Many programs that don't need low level access like spreadsheets, pdf readers, word processors, image editors, etc.could be made into single page html files that would both be sandboxed and cross platform.

> This would be accessible anywhere on any computer hooked up to the internet,

If you has access to internet you could also download & install native app. Also native app once installed could be used without internet access.

Re: It's 2020 and I'm using image maps

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Post by app4soft »

phailhaus wrote: post #60
app4soft wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Because you'd have to download an app like this and then trust that it won't install malware or spyware or do anything else malicious. How you would check that web app, which JavaScript/WebAssembly source/binary should be firstly loaded into your browser from 3rd-party website, would not "install malware or spyware or do anything else malicious"?

Modern browsers are pretty secure nowadays. By comparison, you have pretty much zero guarantees about an app you install onto your computer. The only concern is that these browser apps are quietly sending your files elsewhere, but this is easily inspectable via the dev tools.

> Modern browsers are pretty secure nowadays.

Just few examples of "pretty secure modern browsers nowadays".[0,1]

[0] https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?can=1&q=lab...

[1] https://techdows.com/2020/05/mozilla-halts-firefox-76-rollou...

Re: It's 2020 and I'm using image maps

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Post by LargoLasskhyfv »

app4soft wrote: post #92
alex_duf wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's as trustworthy as your web browser, which is pretty good at sandboxing nowadays.

Has you ever read changelogs of Firefox & Chrome/Chromium? There are tons of issues documented related to sandboxing & security each new release happen.

So are the changelogs of native applicatons, and/or the libraries they are embedding.

Re: It's 2020 and I'm using image maps

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Post by reaperducer »

edgarvaldes wrote: post #62
prakhunov wrote: post #51

This brings me back to the time of when I used Photoshop 5 to create the entire website design and layout, create slices, and export to HTML which was then by edited by Dreamweaver.

Adobe Fireworks was great for that.

Adobe

I think you misspelled Macromedia. ;)

Re: It's 2020 and I'm using image maps

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Post by knbknb »

29athrowaway wrote: post #55

90s starter pack: Framesets, image maps, marquees, blink, guestbooks, visit counters, "under construction", "webmaster", tiled backgrounds. The weirdest: MIDI music on autoplay, VRML.

Java Applets, Dynamic HTML, Perl/CGI, executable email attachments, MSIE vs Netscape

Re: It's 2020 and I'm using image maps

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Post by rikroots »

52-6F-62 wrote: post #78
rikroots wrote: post #29

I used to love image maps: really useful for adding hotlinks and hover effects to images. Sadly they can't deal with the modern responsive web - though there exist some Wordpress plugins to help overcome that issue. This CSS article[1] goes into details about alternative approaches. It mainly seems to be SVG, or CSS clip paths. I've used (and like) SVG; CSS clip paths are foreign territory to me - has anyone used the…

I do like the example with the pins/labels on an image. Seems like it would be useful for something like Wikipedia or recipes, etc. Is it accessible-friendly?

Thank you! It tries to be.

You should be able to tab through the pins using the keyboard, and 'click' a pin by pressing the return button (mileage may vary between browsers and devices). The text labels and links themselves also exist inside elements immediately following the element (automatically added by the library when it picks up a canvas, and when creating canvas text and links) ... but I don't know how useful/convenient this is for users restricted to screen readers.

Re: It's 2020 and I'm using image maps

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Post by turnipla »

turnipla wrote: post #24

And that’s a bad idea. HTML images maps are not responsive. Just use SVG, it works without any scripts and it resizes with the image. If you use you can also use a fully responsive tag

Downvoted why? I told the truth. Why would you use an antiquated feature that's not up to par with SVG?

The absolutely ridiculous part of this is that they're using JS to create additional DIVs on top of the image.

Why use the map at all?

Edit: May 20th 2020: the day I learned HN users are retarded

Re: It's 2020 and I'm using image maps

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Post by zucker42 »

bzb3 wrote: post #73
zucker42 wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would you use browser-based video editing over desktop-based free software, where you can read the source (or listen to someone you trust who has read the source) to make sure it's not doing anything malicious? Besides the fact that it might be easier/simpler for very small projects.

So end users should read all the source code of every piece of software they intend to use before using it instead of using a proven jailing method?

> (or listen to someone you trust who has read the source)

By this I meant to include, for example, the Debian team. Of course there can be bugs/oversights, but the same is true of the browser solution. Is there even one instance of malware being distributed through the official channels of a mainstream Linux distro? Not that an in browser JS video editor isn't cool, but I don't see how it would have technical advantages over the various Linux desktop editors.

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