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San Francisco Residents Are Leaving at an Unprecedented Rate

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Re: San Francisco Residents Are Leaving at an Unprecedented Rate

#91
post #15

Per the article, this is based on an analysis of 1,200 searches done on their platform. It seems like a stretch to use those figures to reach conclusions for a city of over 800,000 residents.

The traditional signal is when U-Haul starts having logistics problems getting trucks back to the City.

UHaul publishes top growth cities and states based on their data. Here's the list of top growth states for 2019: https://www.uhaul.com/Articles/About/19965/U-Haul-Names-Top-...

Re: San Francisco Residents Are Leaving at an Unprecedented Rate

#92

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Haha, I don’t think you have to tell anyone this. They’ll do it themselves.

It was a joke, and you might be surprised. Traffic is an easy indication of the rate of growth.

I, too, was joking! Just bants.

Re: San Francisco Residents Are Leaving at an Unprecedented Rate

#93
post #46

Interesting to see Columbus (I'm assuming OH) on that top 5 list. That means about 60 people were looking at moving to Columbus I guess? The other cities made sense to me, but Columbus was a stand out. The others just seemed like cities people looking to leave SF that would use movebuddah would be looking at. I think it's still a major test market because it has the perfect demographics for that kind of thing.

I've heard great things about Columbus, OH. Never been there but sounds like a great midwest city with an affordable cost of living and nice college town (The Ohio State University).

Brutal winters though if you are coming from CA.

Honestly one of the under rated large cities in the US is Cleveland. I have had to travel a lot for work over the years and was impressed by the dining options available and the general togetherness of the community there. Again winters...bad...

Re: San Francisco Residents Are Leaving at an Unprecedented Rate

#94

Per the article, this is based on an analysis of 1,200 searches done on their platform. It seems like a stretch to use those figures to reach conclusions for a city of over 800,000 residents.

But they are making a year-on-year relative analysis, so even for a non-representative sample, you can identify a strong trend.

Maybe it's a demographic shift between people who don't use their platform and those who do.

Re: San Francisco Residents Are Leaving at an Unprecedented Rate

#95

Per the article, this is based on an analysis of 1,200 searches done on their platform. It seems like a stretch to use those figures to reach conclusions for a city of over 800,000 residents.

There is nothing wrong with that sample size. That should give less than a 3% margin of error at 95% confidence.

If it were uniform.

Re: San Francisco Residents Are Leaving at an Unprecedented Rate

#96
post #79

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And how does that help? You're just sending anyone undesirable to prison? How about, and this is a wild idea, we just require housing to be a natural right and we give people that?

> we just require housing to be a natural right and we give people that? Who is "we" in this context?

People who realize housing people is cheaper than jailing them.

Re: San Francisco Residents Are Leaving at an Unprecedented Rate

#97
post #8

> last year, there were 980 move searches involving the Bay Area [in the same time period] This is microscopic data to make any sort of claim about migration patterns. I live in Denver, and read a similar article a few years ago (more people were moving out than moving in). Didn't seem to have much of an impact on housing prices or the job market, because it wasn't a sustained, significant trend.

Well, the difference is a bit bigger... so last year 57% were looking to move out, or 558.

This year it's 1200 * 90% or 1080...that's nearly double.

This is just a sample size though because, I for one have never heard of the site, so I doubt a ton of people use them for moving needs. A lot probably will just use U-haul and other resources for their move.

I could see a lot of people wanting to move from SF esp, if they've been laid off, how could you possibly afford rent in a recession in SF?

Re: San Francisco Residents Are Leaving at an Unprecedented Rate

#98
post #96

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> we just require housing to be a natural right and we give people that? Who is "we" in this context?

People who realize housing people is cheaper than jailing them.

How is it in any way cheaper. I mean yes, if you ship people to middle america it will be. But touting a "right" to housing in SF is preposterous, at $1000 / sq ft (and will only go up with more demand).

Re: San Francisco Residents Are Leaving at an Unprecedented Rate

#99
post #30

As soon as COVID is over we're out.

I'm legit curious. What's your definition of "over"? In a few years when vaccines have been found, 85% of people inoculated and no more proven Covid-19 cases have been found for 30 days? or...?

I think the consensus of 'over' is when the world one way or the other goes back to well...as normal as it's gonna get. Personally, I think that'll be when there's better treatments for the effects of covid, I'm not too believing of a vaccine hitting anytime under 2 years.

But if we could halve the death-rate or more, it'd be pretty good steps towards getting back to normal. Also, if we could actually get people to wear masks and take it seriously. That'd go a long way towards quelling it.

Re: San Francisco Residents Are Leaving at an Unprecedented Rate

#100
post #96

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> we just require housing to be a natural right and we give people that? Who is "we" in this context?

People who realize housing people is cheaper than jailing them.

What is stopping the group of people who realize this from housing people?
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