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Re: DigitalOcean VPC

#91

Post by MaxBarraclough » Wed, Apr 29, 2020, 9:00 AM UTC

ttul wrote: post #44

freedomben wrote: post #42

I'm glad they plugged their outbound network transfer fees compared to the others[1]. I was shocked and horrified when my AWS bill (which I pay myself) quadrupled due to outgoing network transfer fees. It's truly outrageous what they charge. I use Digital Ocean a lot now simply to avoid nasty surprises like that. I hope AWS and Google change that. [1] https://blog.digitalocean.com/its-all-about-the-bandwidth-wh...

We use Direct Connect to get traffic to edge nodes where we buy fixed 10Gbps links and pay a fraction of the AWS cost. AWS bandwidth costs are ridiculous.

I'm not familiar with Direct Connect. Does it work out as AWS giving reduced bandwidth fees for certain providers?

Re: DigitalOcean VPC

#92

Post by byefruit » Wed, Apr 29, 2020, 9:01 AM UTC

iddqd wrote: post #80

gowthamgts12 wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm transferring out ~5TB/day and pay no charges for it. I'm using scaleway ( https://www.scaleway.com/en/pricing/ )

External outgoing traffic First step up to 75 GB: 0 € per GB From 75GB to 499TB: 0.01 € per GB/month Am I missing something?

Yes, you're reading the object storage traffic section.

The servers themselves come with unlimited transfer.

Re: DigitalOcean VPC

#93

Post by Hamuko » Wed, Apr 29, 2020, 9:02 AM UTC

iddqd wrote: post #80

gowthamgts12 wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm transferring out ~5TB/day and pay no charges for it. I'm using scaleway ( https://www.scaleway.com/en/pricing/ )

External outgoing traffic First step up to 75 GB: 0 € per GB From 75GB to 499TB: 0.01 € per GB/month Am I missing something?

That's object storage, not the servers. AFAIK, Scaleway has unlimited server traffic.

Re: DigitalOcean VPC

#94

Post by MaxBarraclough » Wed, Apr 29, 2020, 9:04 AM UTC

te_chris wrote: post #86

I didn't realise they offered Kubernetes as a managed service. Will seriously evaluate when our GCS credits are getting closer to running out. VPC, Kube and managed DB is all we need (and Terraform providers).

According to [0] there were serious security problems with their managed Kubernetes in the early days. May since have been fixed.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22490390

Re: DigitalOcean VPC

#95

Post by Hamuko » Wed, Apr 29, 2020, 9:05 AM UTC

oefrha wrote: post #50

echelon wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

$0.01/GB is fantastic, but I have a bandwidth intensive ML media application and don't know how to monetize or sell it quickly enough to pay for my bandwidth costs. Is there a cloud or dedicated server farm with even cheaper outbound bandwidth? Edit: as much as I hate Oracle, their first 10TB is free, and each GB after that is $0.0085/GB. Better...

If you’re okay with servers located in Germany, Hetzner is a provider I can vouch for and they offer additional egress at 1EUR/TB. 20TB included, too. (Billing has been rather painful, though.)

I have a dedicated server at Hetzner for 25 euro a month. I get an i7, 16 GB of RAM and 2x3 TB in RAID 1, which is nice since I'm hosting large media files.

I'm currently sitting at 4.2 TB of outbound traffic for the last 30 days, so I still have plenty of room to scale up my outbound traffic before I hit any limits. But most importantly my costs are fixed.

Re: DigitalOcean VPC

#96

Post by Not_John » Wed, Apr 29, 2020, 9:24 AM UTC

freedomben wrote: post #42

I'm glad they plugged their outbound network transfer fees compared to the others[1]. I was shocked and horrified when my AWS bill (which I pay myself) quadrupled due to outgoing network transfer fees. It's truly outrageous what they charge. I use Digital Ocean a lot now simply to avoid nasty surprises like that. I hope AWS and Google change that. [1] https://blog.digitalocean.com/its-all-about-the-bandwidth-wh...

So there is a link in that Blog post (https://www.digitalocean.com/pricing/bandwidth/) wich got me thinking about the $.01 Price and the Bandwithpool.

1000GB Data consumption is 10$ (1.000 GB @ $0.01 / GB) but adding a Droplet for 5$ adds 1000GB to you Datapool.

So with adding cheap Droplets you could lower the Bandwith Cost 50%?

Re: DigitalOcean VPC

#97

Post by MaxBarraclough » Wed, Apr 29, 2020, 9:50 AM UTC

Aside: I got curious about their web video player. Turns out it's hosted using a service called Wistia. Their 'about us' video is fantastic. https://wistia.com/about-wistia

Re: DigitalOcean VPC

#98

Post by jzer0cool » Wed, Apr 29, 2020, 10:11 AM UTC

I'm just learning here about the cheaper outbound network fees - I'm always afraid of the outbound costs due to any spike of traffic.

Could anyone here share some other benefits to using DO? Or any particular Must Have's on a particular cloud provider?

Re: DigitalOcean VPC

#99

Post by synthmeat » Wed, Apr 29, 2020, 10:12 AM UTC

treebornfrog wrote: post #70

Got to love DO. Simple pricing, nothing hidden, not the most feature rich ecosystem, but I get no billing surprises. Source: customer for 3 years.

Over 7 years, 100s of VMs atm. Tried to get into AWS and GCP few times over the years just for the resume-building and fun, didn't see the point. While I can understand they fit some use-cases, I think a good rule of thumb would be - if you don't know why exactly you need AWS/GCP/Azure, go with DigitalOcean. I worked at 2 companies that, if they went with AWS as they've planned, they would've gone under three times over, mostly because of the egress. If you're startup and DO's services are mostly there for your use case, it's antithetical for you to go with AWS/GCP.

Re: DigitalOcean VPC

#100

Post by jermaustin1 » Wed, Apr 29, 2020, 10:27 AM UTC

Not_John wrote: post #96

freedomben wrote: post #42

I'm glad they plugged their outbound network transfer fees compared to the others[1]. I was shocked and horrified when my AWS bill (which I pay myself) quadrupled due to outgoing network transfer fees. It's truly outrageous what they charge. I use Digital Ocean a lot now simply to avoid nasty surprises like that. I hope AWS and Google change that. [1] https://blog.digitalocean.com/its-all-about-the-bandwidth-wh...

So there is a link in that Blog post ( https://www.digitalocean.com/pricing/bandwidth/ ) wich got me thinking about the $.01 Price and the Bandwithpool. 1000GB Data consumption is 10$ (1.000 GB @ $0.01 / GB) but adding a Droplet for 5$ adds 1000GB to you Datapool. So with adding cheap Droplets you could lower the Bandwith Cost 50%?

At a previous company, we literally did that, and also had to get our VM limit increased.

But it only gets you so far, its a cost optimization at the low end, but eventually it isn't "worth it".

You are checking your bandwidth use against the pool limit, then spinning up a new VM when you get close to the limit, but then back down the next month so you aren't paying for unneeded bandwidth, paying the extra $5 and not worrying about some custom price hack is a lot easier and less stressful.