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Fear and beauty: two weeks living with Covid-19

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Re: Fear and beauty: two weeks living with Covid-19

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Post by ip26 »

cowmoo728 wrote: post #49
debaserab2 wrote: post #10

I'm also in CO and had COVID-19 like symptoms about a month ago (fever and GI issues without any other major symptoms for a week progressing into a dry cough/heavy breathing -- completely unlike any other flu I've had). I never got tested due to lack of test kits here in CO at the time and because my symptoms stayed manageable I never saw a health care provider beyond a virtual meeting to get a rescue inhaler. At the…

If I had a blood oxygen of 89% I would have gone to the emergency room immediately. That's 80 year old smoker with emphysema levels. If you were previously healthy that is far more serious than the "light" covid-19 that many people get, assuming the reading was accurate.

Don't forget he's in CO, SPO2 is lower at altitude. Nobody has 100% in Denver- unless they have carbon monoxide poisoning (or so I'm told).

Re: Fear and beauty: two weeks living with Covid-19

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Post by ksk »

birken wrote: post #36
shadowprofile77 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which would in fact be good news in a certain way, because either it's as deadly as reported and nowhere near as contagious as your last paragraph suggests, or its far more contagious and widespread but thus nowhere near as deadly as is being seen from case fatality rates derived from known cases. I'm not stating anything new with this really, but your case is likely one of many, many others in which a person felt my…

The problem with this interpretation is that whatever the combination of deadly/contagious the virus is, we already have direct evidence that when it spreads without any containment it causes unacceptably extreme amounts of sickness and death. So exactly where the virus ends up on the grid of mortality/contagiousness doesn't seem to be all that important because it is well beyond the frontier of being problematic. Ho…

>we already have direct evidence that when it spreads without any containment it causes unacceptably extreme amounts of sickness and death

That hasn't happened in Sweden.

Re: Fear and beauty: two weeks living with Covid-19

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Post by Der_Einzige »

EducandoLogic wrote: post #85
Der_Einzige wrote: post #82

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I cannot understand what you are saying.

Then , if you arent a medicine, but german as I see,,, LINKERPRPAGANDIST ??!!, nur ein Verdacht,, so if , then read about retoviral medicaments,, NO science ,all they say is we assume that it avoided xz amount of people dying. Ther are no empiric studies.. its charlataneria concerning those meds and they are very toxic... understand now tiny bit the only one? Verdammt schnell bei der Stange, Hallo mit wem habe ich da…

I'm not German but I'm pretty sure that you're from the 50 cent army given that this account was created super recently and has only posted in this one thread with utter nonsense straight out of Google translate. Especially since your post is about how drugs don't work on a predominantly American used forum...

Re: Fear and beauty: two weeks living with Covid-19

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Post by loosetypes »

debaserab2 wrote: post #10

I'm also in CO and had COVID-19 like symptoms about a month ago (fever and GI issues without any other major symptoms for a week progressing into a dry cough/heavy breathing -- completely unlike any other flu I've had). I never got tested due to lack of test kits here in CO at the time and because my symptoms stayed manageable I never saw a health care provider beyond a virtual meeting to get a rescue inhaler. At the…

Have you seen any theories floating around that it had already spread in some places like the following?

https://www.ksbw.com/article/new-study-investigates-californ...

I’m in SF but having a hard deciphering the plausibility vs the timing and effectiveness of sheltering-in-place vs it just being a rationalization.

Anything similar stories out there for CO?

Re: Fear and beauty: two weeks living with Covid-19

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Post by nradov »

ip26 wrote: post #91
cowmoo728 wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I had a blood oxygen of 89% I would have gone to the emergency room immediately. That's 80 year old smoker with emphysema levels. If you were previously healthy that is far more serious than the "light" covid-19 that many people get, assuming the reading was accurate.

Don't forget he's in CO, SPO2 is lower at altitude. Nobody has 100% in Denver- unless they have carbon monoxide poisoning (or so I'm told).

Average blood oxygen levels only drop about 5% in Denver.

Re: Fear and beauty: two weeks living with Covid-19

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Post by joe_the_user »

fyfy18 wrote: post #71
JMTQp8lwXL wrote: post #59

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The U.S. has about 600k cases. One order of magnitude more is 6M cases. That's still very far from broadly spreading. It's worrying about the viability of the herd immunity theory (too few people had it), and opening the country soon (a few weeks of exponential case increases would overload hospital capacity, even after stemming the case growth through sheltering-- putting us back to square one). It feels, 1-2 months…

At least in Europe the results of quarantine are starting to show results, Italy, Spain and Germany and all seeing a drop in new daily cases and deaths. Spain will allow factories and businesses that can't work remotely to reopen today, although there are concerns it may be too early. Other European countries that imposed quarantine 'ahead of the curve' are not facing any issues in terms of hospital capacity.

That still doesn't explain how opening businesses can avoid infecting many more people. Now certainly but even when infection rates get considerably lower.

A scan of recent news seems to indicate Spain doesn't have anything like a testing program in place.

A look at Italy, Spain, France and Germany seems to indicate the epidemic has plateaued, not stopped and it's plateaued at a fairly high level.

Re: Fear and beauty: two weeks living with Covid-19

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Post by andybak »

ccktlmazeltov wrote: post #6
whoisjuan wrote: post #4

So he claims that he got it despite practicing all the social distancing protocols, hand-washing, etc. Has anyone calculated what are the probabilities of infection in an area with an active infection cluster while practicing social-distancing and other hygiene measures?

holy shit, might as well just go out and enjoy your life

Quite enjoying my life while staying in actually.

Re: Fear and beauty: two weeks living with Covid-19

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Post by nradov »

knz wrote: post #51
Aeolun wrote: post #41

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The alternative is starvation though. Hardly compelling. I guess you can wear gloves? But then you still have to wipe everything you bought down when you get home.

> the alternative is starvation Is there not a middle ground of food delivery? Nonperishable foods can sit out for several days before use, significantly reducing the risk. Likewise with wiping everything down when you get home. Supposedly soap is effective - it's not difficult to soak everything in soapy water. You can't completely eliminate all risk but you can certainly mitigate it.

Food delivery services are overwhelmed in many areas. It's better that those of us in good health continue doing our own shopping, and leave the available delivery slots for customers at higher risk.

Re: Fear and beauty: two weeks living with Covid-19

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Post by mirimir »

jameslevy wrote: post #77
mirimir wrote: post #53

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There's the simple expedient of 1) touching potentially contaminated stuff only with your left hand, 2) only touching clean stuff with your right hand, and 3) never cross contaminating your left and right hands. And whenever you can, wash or use 70% alcohol. When I'm out, I always carry a paper towel soaked in 70% isopropanol in my right hand, and periodically wipe my left hand.

There's a lot of history to this left hand, right hand protocol. I'm assuming you do it in this tradition, or at least as a nod to it?

Yes, of course.

I also have decades of muscle memory with using disposable gloves in a lab context, but that's not so useful when you don't have 100 gloves per day to burn through. But even so, I'm always conscious of what I've touched when, and with what.

Re: Fear and beauty: two weeks living with Covid-19

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Post by ta999999171 »

ksk wrote: post #92
birken wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem with this interpretation is that whatever the combination of deadly/contagious the virus is, we already have direct evidence that when it spreads without any containment it causes unacceptably extreme amounts of sickness and death. So exactly where the virus ends up on the grid of mortality/contagiousness doesn't seem to be all that important because it is well beyond the frontier of being problematic. Ho…

>we already have direct evidence that when it spreads without any containment it causes unacceptably extreme amounts of sickness and death That hasn't happened in Sweden.

What of the UK?
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