They are really going mask off now. Take all their money.
Billionaires Want People Back to Work. Employees Aren’t So Sure
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#92Only the fortunate who have nest eggs saved up can say 'I'm not sure I'm ready to go back yet.' They quoted 1 server like he speaks for everyone.
tell that to the people who have families and been furloughed for 2 months or more. Here in Vegas I dont know one person who doesnt want work to start tomorrow.
this article reeks of so much privilege its insane. The billionaires will still be billionaires if nothing happened for over a year.
The rest of us without the opportunity to have nest eggs will be in poverty.
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#93Usually they don't say the quiet part out loud, and yet here we are. We're incredibly fortunate in tech that we can do a large portion of work remotely, many people aren't so lucky. One would think that we'd value life above profit but lately that doesn't appear to be the case.
You’re lucky today. Tomorrow isn’t so clear. Ad spends are dropping and dropping fast. Amazon is a retailer. Apple sells luxury goods. Cloud and Microsoft are dependent on big spends from enterprise. All of this is at risk. Tech isn’t independent of the Main Street economy.
Nothing is independent from the economy, but somethings are less elastic. Apple might also be doing better than others right now because they have a ridiculously large cash reserve and can probably wait this out.
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#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
Appropriate disaster reading :-). Others have pointed out how the black plague killed off a lot of serfs and really put a dent in feudalism because of it. It is all well and good to own a thousand hectares of land but without the serfs to work it, its just a nice park to go walking in.
Trouble is, that nowadays the serfs are in China. In the Middle Ages, servants would flee a lord that was too harsh. The Church and the towns with their rising merchant class would be another way out. Instead we have healthcare tied to the job and the tech hiring cartel. Where is the revolution?
I see a number of serfs driving around my town partaking in the "gig" economy.
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#95This shouldn't be surprising to anyone. Billionaires are billionaires because of the extreme disproportionate gains by the few at the expense of thousands/millions. They're used to seeing the many slave away for their interests. Not seeing that happening now is throwing their view of proper world order into chaos and they're not used to be back in a position without control.
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#96This shouldn't be surprising to anyone. Billionaires are billionaires because of the extreme disproportionate gains by the few at the expense of thousands/millions. They're used to seeing the many slave away for their interests. Not seeing that happening now is throwing their view of proper world order into chaos and they're not used to be back in a position without control.
Its not a zero sum game. Many billionaires - including the ones referenced in the article - got that way by executing on ideas/products that improve society. Think of all the ways companies created by billionaires progressed our quality of life (yes even Bezos, Larry/Sergy, Gates, Musk, Zuckerberg, not to mention industries like food, pharma, agriculture, construction, transportation). The way we get to version of society where everyone can have a high quality of life (with socialism, UBI or whatever mechanism necessary) is to first let the current system create these efficiencies.
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#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
Forced working from home while during a pandemic. It's nothing like working from home under more normal circumstances.
If productivity turns out to be similar (or better) despite this handicap, I'd be genuinely curious to see how companies respond! I'm personally very pro-remote (have worked remote at corporate gigs before) and it'd be great to see more companies adopting it. There are some seriously big benefits and, if the tooling keeps improving, I think it could be a real competitive advantage for companies.
> If productivity turns out to be similar (or better) despite this handicap, I'd be genuinely curious to see how companies respond!
It won't. That's the problem. Being forced to do WFH unprepaerd + kids suddenly home + being in an actual pandemic, worried about the future, your family and yourself = productivity disaster. And it unfortunately will end up emotionally associated with WFH.
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#98Okay, so if we let the infection rip, what's their plan to deal with the massive wave of people suffocating on their own phlegm? Dig a trench?
I know this won't be a popular take but I haven't seen any compelling data to indicate what we're dealing with is any more deadly than a cold. No one has any idea how many people have been infected by this virus. It is assuredly many many more than current tests have revealed as the only people being tested are healthcare workers and at-risk individuals. I wouldn't be surprised if over a million people in the U.S. ha…
So the dead piling up in Spain and Italy are apparently not compelling enough? I can't recall a common cold overwhelming medical facilities and emptying nursing homes like this. The thing that seems to elude the "it's just a cold" school of thought is that this is a cold for which there exists zero population immunity, unlike the existing coronavirus strains or even the flu.
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#99Usually they don't say the quiet part out loud, and yet here we are. We're incredibly fortunate in tech that we can do a large portion of work remotely, many people aren't so lucky. One would think that we'd value life above profit but lately that doesn't appear to be the case.
You’re lucky today. Tomorrow isn’t so clear. Ad spends are dropping and dropping fast. Amazon is a retailer. Apple sells luxury goods. Cloud and Microsoft are dependent on big spends from enterprise. All of this is at risk. Tech isn’t independent of the Main Street economy.
Certainly not independent but given the option of supporting people in a time of need and pushing them back to work and stressing the healthcare capacity of the county we certainly seem to be trending towards the latter.
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#100Okay, so if we let the infection rip, what's their plan to deal with the massive wave of people suffocating on their own phlegm? Dig a trench?
I know this won't be a popular take but I haven't seen any compelling data to indicate what we're dealing with is any more deadly than a cold. No one has any idea how many people have been infected by this virus. It is assuredly many many more than current tests have revealed as the only people being tested are healthcare workers and at-risk individuals. I wouldn't be surprised if over a million people in the U.S. ha…
In Italy on average there are about 2000 deaths a day. Yesterday, there were 683 deaths attributed to Coronovirus.