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Re: My Covid-19 Story in Brooklyn

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Post by aldoushuxley001 »

endorphone wrote: post #16
sschueller wrote: post #8

The Swiss government issued the following guidelines [1] to prevent further spread of the virus. Masks are considered useless unless you are infected. - Wash your hands thoroughly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvcvvRp3lsY - Cough and sneeze into a paper tissue/handerchief or the crook of your arm. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3_rFPtQgKE - If you experience shortness of breath, have a cough or fever: • Stay at…

Masks are considered useless unless you are infected. This is a bizarre claim that can be countered against the reality that every front-line worker is equipped with a mask. EDIT: Almost immediately I dropped to -2. Bizarre. Again, every health agency the world over equips health workers who deal with potential COVID-19 with N95+ masks. For some reason people desperately want to clutch onto the notion that it's usele…

Frankly it's your tone that sucks. People initially thought you were referring to the generic medical masks, which are useless unless you're already sick. Being clear in your initial comment would have helped with the confusion.

Re: My Covid-19 Story in Brooklyn

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Post by prostheticvamp »

vanusa wrote: post #24
sschueller wrote: post #8

The Swiss government issued the following guidelines [1] to prevent further spread of the virus. Masks are considered useless unless you are infected. - Wash your hands thoroughly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvcvvRp3lsY - Cough and sneeze into a paper tissue/handerchief or the crook of your arm. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3_rFPtQgKE - If you experience shortness of breath, have a cough or fever: • Stay at…

Masks are considered useless unless you are infected. That's not what the guidelines said. They guidelines were referring only to "hygienic masks" a.k.a. generic surgical masks: The Federal Office of Public Health (FOPH) does not recommend that people who are well wear hygienic masks (surgical masks). If you are in good health, they do not protect you effectively against an infection with respiratory viruses (i.e. se…

They provide no /self/ protection. As I have said in multiple threads on this topic: we wear astm3 masks to protect /patients/ from /us/. A lot of hospital PPE is oriented towards /patient/ protection.

And N95s are heavy and uncomfortable. No one can wear them for long. But if anyone wants to, they’re welcome to it.

Re: My Covid-19 Story in Brooklyn

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Post by prostheticvamp »

endorphone wrote: post #16
sschueller wrote: post #8

The Swiss government issued the following guidelines [1] to prevent further spread of the virus. Masks are considered useless unless you are infected. - Wash your hands thoroughly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvcvvRp3lsY - Cough and sneeze into a paper tissue/handerchief or the crook of your arm. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3_rFPtQgKE - If you experience shortness of breath, have a cough or fever: • Stay at…

Masks are considered useless unless you are infected. This is a bizarre claim that can be countered against the reality that every front-line worker is equipped with a mask. EDIT: Almost immediately I dropped to -2. Bizarre. Again, every health agency the world over equips health workers who deal with potential COVID-19 with N95+ masks. For some reason people desperately want to clutch onto the notion that it's usele…

Any post that fails to distinguish between N95 respirators and ASTM 3 surgical masks is too ignorant on this topic to make comments worthy of an upvote.

The Surgeon General, on the other hand, does understand the difference and made an appropriate comment.

Re: My Covid-19 Story in Brooklyn

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Post by volkk »

ropiwqefjnpoa wrote: post #41

It's going to spread here, I'd rather have it and get immunity sooner than later when it's full swing and treatment might be limited.

you dont get immunity to it. you can re-catch it, at least according to certain sources. woman in japan got it again, or at least it seemed to have gone away entirely, and then came back.

Re: My Covid-19 Story in Brooklyn

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Post by alexandercrohde »

voidmain wrote: post #77
soared wrote: post #36

> This is a tough one. I'm an attending physician. > Guidelines are there for a reason. As much as I despise our Commander in Chief, I don't think the CDC is compromised. Fear doesn't rank over guidelines, but I understand the situation. No one wants to be the doctor that discharges patient zero. > Personally, I'd admit you for fever of unknown origin for the time being and monitor you for any signs of sepsis. If eve…

The guidelines for testing were so absurdly stringent because there was almost no testing capacity in the US, despite their being hundreds of labs with RTPCR equipment, because the CDC screwed up their test kits and the FDA used emergency powers to prohibit labs from developing their own tests, and forbids the creation of commercial test kits and the importation of foreign ones. Three weeks after CDC (after an alread…

>> forbids the creation of commercial test kits and the importation of foreign ones

I was wondering about this... Very hard to justify that in my opinion.

Re: My Covid-19 Story in Brooklyn

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Post by empath75 »

prostheticvamp wrote: post #89
partiallypro wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apparently some kits were recalled because they were flawed and there is a shortage as a result. So it is somewhat understandable that the CDC doesn't want to test just anyone with flu like symptoms.

During flu season. That line is always left out of this: the CDC doesn’t want to test just anyone with cold and flu symptoms ... during flu season. The false positives are basically guaranteed to absolutely swamp the true positives at this time, and demolish any attempt to target the sick.

They are supposed to only test people with flu like symptoms that test negative for flu. Which this person did.

Re: My Covid-19 Story in Brooklyn

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Post by rrss »

garmaine wrote: post #82
seraphsf wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The core problem is that the CDC (and country) has had the capacity to test only a few hundred samples per day. Meaning, they don’t have the ability to test everyone with flu-like symptoms. Nobody thinks it’s right to NOT test every potential case. It just wasn’t possible. Good news: Just today, they released new rules that should increase testing capacity by 400x.

The CDC doesn't run the tests. The hospitals and independent labs do. There has been some issues with the test kits distributed by the CDC, but since the virus genome has been sequenced you don't actually need a test kit (it's just a faster process if you have one). However the CDC has enacted emergency powers to make it illegal for hospitals to use their own testing equipment, which they have in-house, to test their…

> the only confirmed case of community-spread COVID-19

There are now 4 confirmed cases of community-spread COVID-19. 2 in california, 1 in oregon, 1 in washington.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/high-school-student-washington-lat...

Re: My Covid-19 Story in Brooklyn

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Post by Leary »

One of the key findings coming out of China is that CT scans can outperform reverse-transcription polymerase chain reaction (RT-PCR) lab tests in diagnosing the Coronavirus[1].

[1]https://www.itnonline.com/content/ct-provides-best-diagnosis...

If the CDC's current tests are flawed or too few, then the CDC should provide guidelines to health providers to quickly diagnose potential patients using CT scans.

Re: My Covid-19 Story in Brooklyn

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Post by allovernow »

SteveNuts wrote: post #54
Consultant32452 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Governments have other concerns besides your individual health. They need to prevent panic as much as possible, prevent economic collapse, etc. The response to events like this can be worse than the initial problem. What do you think happens if the CDC says everyone needs to wear masks, you go to your local store, and there are no masks? There would be violence in the streets.

Then why don't they have millions of masks stockpiled for an event like this?

In any case we need more than masks for this. Medical equipment like mechanical ventilators, intubators, and external oxygenation machines. Those will run out very quickly.

Re: My Covid-19 Story in Brooklyn

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Post by [deleted] »

tyfon wrote: post #59
majos wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tangent, but 3000 times per day is about once every 20s awake. That seems high?

The article I refer to in the sibling comment claims 23 times an hour on average so it would mean about 550 times during a day/night if you don't sleep. It sounds a bit more plausible.

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