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ThinkPad T480 is my new main laptop which runs FreeBSD

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Re: ThinkPad T480 is my new main laptop which runs FreeBSD

#91
Try the new Thinkpad X1 Extreme Gen 2:

9th Gen Intel® Core™ i9-9880H (16 Threads, 16 MB Cache)

NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1650 Max-Q 4GB

64 GB RAM

4K OLED display (better colors than Mac)

Great keyboard

Infrared Camera

Fingerprint Sensor

DOULBY Sound System

Water-Spoil-Protection

...

The first generation had some cooling issues, but it is solved now in the second generation.

Re: ThinkPad T480 is my new main laptop which runs FreeBSD

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The T480s has so much better build quality. Its all metal vs T480 which is plasticity and soft touch. Not sure why you would choose T480 unless you REALLY need > 24gb ram or giant extended battery. Even the inside is better built. The plastic front clips of the T480 backplate break super easily, whereas the T480s has replaceable clips.

Similarly, I can vouch for the T495s' sturdiness. The whole thing genuinely feels like a slab of solid rock (but is still lightweight); I can't quantify how robust this thing is, but Lenovo guarantees that every T495s has been through some sort of military testing where it sits in different environments for several hours (sandstorm, scorching heat, freezing cold, humidity).

Re: ThinkPad T480 is my new main laptop which runs FreeBSD

#93

Mac user here. Still use a desktop Mac mini daily, but have replaced my 13" Macbook Pro for a 14" Thinkpad running Ubuntu. So far so good. Haven't had nearly the amount of hardware issues reported in this thread. Only the fingerprint scanner does not work, despite best efforts to install its drivers. The hardest thing for me so far has been customising it to behave like macOS. The muscle memory of keyboard shortcuts…

I've been running 1.3x fake scaling for years by just tweaking fonts. In previous Ubuntu versions with Unity that was just a standard setting. Now I need to set the font scaling in the tweak tool and in the firefox about:config. After that everything just looks fine.

Re: ThinkPad T480 is my new main laptop which runs FreeBSD

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>Ethernet and WiFi work, although WiFi is a bit slow (only up to 802.11a?) compared to 802.11n/802.11ac capable OSes. And stuff like this is why I've never stuck with FreeBSD when I've tried it. I screw around with debugging issues all day at work. Why would I want to try to figure out why something as fundamental as wifi isn't working in my spare time?

They almost certainly mean 802.11g or n, not the archaic a. FreeBSD has generally good 802.11n support. It lacks 802.11ac.

Yes, if you absolutely need 802.11ac wifi in particular, FreeBSD isn't a great choice. But many modern 802.11n NICs (and 802.11ac NICs, in 802.11n mode) "just work" out of the box, including the 'iwm' devices mentioned in the article, on more recent versions of FreeBSD.

FreeBSD 12.0 dates to 2018 — this is like installing Fedora 29 in 2020.

Re: ThinkPad T480 is my new main laptop which runs FreeBSD

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I use one of those too and made the switch rather recently from a MBPr. I used Linux Mint on it. It's speedy, video calling works fine, can compile lots of code quickly, and it's refurbished and saved from the dumpster. I hope to never buy a new computer again instead relying on refurbishing old ones as we go along. I keep all of my configurations and projects synced up so that booting up a new computer into my dev e…

This is exactly what I've done for the last 5 years or so. I'm currently running a T460 I picked up almost two years ago for under $500 and is now running Xubuntu 18.04. My wife's running an X1 Yoga gen 2 that I picked up for around $400.

I've come to the same conclusion that it's generally not worth the premium cost to buy a new laptop when good hardware is so readily available in my neck of the woods.

Re: ThinkPad T480 is my new main laptop which runs FreeBSD

#96
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> ...mainstream OSes? Look how far we've come. Linux was the alternative OS just ~15 years ago. Now it's one of the mainstream OSes . TBH, I'd like to see one of the BSDs to become one of the mainstream OSes too. :) edit: Except macOS ofc. :)

Well, a BSD-branded BSD isn't. (MacOS is technically a BSD.)

Some BSD userspace only, and with few of the things most BSD people like about BSD.

Re: ThinkPad T480 is my new main laptop which runs FreeBSD

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post #94
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>Ethernet and WiFi work, although WiFi is a bit slow (only up to 802.11a?) compared to 802.11n/802.11ac capable OSes. And stuff like this is why I've never stuck with FreeBSD when I've tried it. I screw around with debugging issues all day at work. Why would I want to try to figure out why something as fundamental as wifi isn't working in my spare time?

They almost certainly mean 802.11g or n, not the archaic a. FreeBSD has generally good 802.11n support. It lacks 802.11ac. Yes, if you absolutely need 802.11ac wifi in particular, FreeBSD isn't a great choice. But many modern 802.11n NICs (and 802.11ac NICs, in 802.11n mode) "just work" out of the box, including the 'iwm' devices mentioned in the article, on more recent versions of FreeBSD. FreeBSD 12.0 dates to 2018…

> It lacks 802.11ac.

Why in the world would it lack support for one of the most ubiquitous, not to mention fastest, wireless standards? I mean, it’s been out since 2013.

Re: ThinkPad T480 is my new main laptop which runs FreeBSD

#98
Have been running Linux on Lenovo laptops forever. A T500, then a T440p, now an X1E Gen2 (can't remember what I used before the T500).

While I still am not able to buy a Lenovo laptop without Windows preinstalled, at least Lenovo is open enough for other OSs (FreeBSD, Linux, etc) to run relatively flawlessly on them.

Re: ThinkPad T480 is my new main laptop which runs FreeBSD

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post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They almost certainly mean 802.11g or n, not the archaic a. FreeBSD has generally good 802.11n support. It lacks 802.11ac. Yes, if you absolutely need 802.11ac wifi in particular, FreeBSD isn't a great choice. But many modern 802.11n NICs (and 802.11ac NICs, in 802.11n mode) "just work" out of the box, including the 'iwm' devices mentioned in the article, on more recent versions of FreeBSD. FreeBSD 12.0 dates to 2018…

> It lacks 802.11ac. Why in the world would it lack support for one of the most ubiquitous, not to mention fastest, wireless standards? I mean, it’s been out since 2013.

Because there are not many people with the ability to add 802.11ac support to drivers, the resources to do so (datasheets, test hardware), and the time required. The 802.11 stack does support at least some 11ac features.

Re: ThinkPad T480 is my new main laptop which runs FreeBSD

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The screens are actually the very reason I choose a thinkpad over a mac. Gloss screens are pretty much impossible to work on if you prefer dark colorschemes, and at least the thinkpads give you the matte option.

You can buy matte screen protectors. I put one on my macbook and it was night and day.

Do you think it was as good as a factory-produced matte screen? While I was aware you can do this, I'm a little hesitant to do something which is an absolute minimum for usability, in case I'm not happy with the outcome. It feels a bit like having to install a keyboard on the laptop myself, because the laptop didn't come with one...
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