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Re: A singer apologized, closed his eyes, dropped his head and died onstage

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Post by thrwaway69 »

xvector wrote: post #25
thought_alarm wrote: post #10

That's how any sane person would want to go. It's funny[.] how much time and money and effort goes in to keeping aged people alive in conditions that are terrible. Do what you love, and go out on top. [.]appalling

I cannot wait until we cure aging so we can die on our own terms. The right to death should be as inalienable as the right to life, and nothing short of the heat death should be allowed to make this decision for a sentient being.

It would be interesting to see how everyone reacts to an instant death switch or ability to set your own death date lower or higher than your natural life expectancy without society having control over it. Not only people want control over their lives but once they get it, they will naturally want to control others.

I wonder about the ethical complications. If someone is dying from heart attack but you can save him every time he goes through it, will you force that even if the person want to die via heart attack? At what point do you differentiate between suicide or ability to quit it?

Re: A singer apologized, closed his eyes, dropped his head and died onstage

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Post by honestoHeminway »

bryanrasmussen wrote: post #64
derefr wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All of these problems are solved by transcending flesh and blood. Why wouldn't a brain-emulation want to live forever, with just as much zest for life and learning after a billion years as today; and what's stopping us from eventually hosting a googolplex such ems (= plenty of room for raising kids) on "only" the computational substrate of a single Sol-powered matrioshka brain?

If I show you a machine that people step into and are then brought out the other side on a single Sol-powered matrioshka brain then I suppose you would take that offer, however there is a leap between the two states that cannot be conclusively proven. How do we know that the consciousness is in the matrioshka is the person who went in.

During this peaceful time the CORE made a breakthrough in which they found a way for the human consciousness to be transferred safely into a machine through a process they called patterning, which theoretically granted the humans immortality. The peace was broken when the CORE imposed a mandate on the humans to undergo the patterning process as a public health measure; when many of the humans refused the process, the CORE announced that any human who refused the process would be obliterated, and a rebel band known as the ARM was formed out of colonies throughout the galaxy, consisting of humans who refused to leave their natural bodies. The resulting conflict then escalated into a war that would last four thousand years

Re: A singer apologized, closed his eyes, dropped his head and died onstage

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Post by jaxn »

cyberferret wrote: post #52

Condolences to his family and friends, but for an entertainer, I can think of no better thing that you remember last in the world, and that is to be entertaining people and to be in the middle of your craft when the reaper taps you on the shoulder. Somehow, me collapsing on my keyboard mid code doesn't seem all that great way to go. I will have to get another passion that I am mid stream in and enjoying life to the m…

He was a family friend of mine, and everyone I have talked to has the same take.

He was a great songwriter and he wrote a brilliant ending.

Re: A singer apologized, closed his eyes, dropped his head and died onstage

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Post by xvector »

bryanrasmussen wrote: post #88
xvector wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> How do we know that the consciousness is in the matrioshka is the person who went in. If we could solve this today we would already be well on the way immortality! But there are some theories, the most prominent of which is a Moravec Transfer[1]: > A neuron-sized robot swims up to a neuron and scans it into memory. A computer starts simulating the neuron. The robot waits until the neuron perfectly matches its simul…

Ok, but in the black mirror episode I think we should have each neuron's worth of processing done in the Cloud owned by Google. Then they shut it down.

“We have determined that the target audience for this product simply is not big enough. Apologies to all of those housed in our servers. Toodles!”

Re: A singer apologized, closed his eyes, dropped his head and died onstage

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Post by at_a_remove »

Mark Sandman of Morphine also died on stage, as did the lead singer of The Beat Farmers. William Bennett, lead oboist of the San Francisco Symphony, died on stage and literally passed his instrument to another on his way down to the ground.

Re: A singer apologized, closed his eyes, dropped his head and died onstage

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Post by chispamed »

FeepingCreature wrote: post #62
chispamed wrote: post #42

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Last year med student here, sudden cardiac arrest commonly occur in young people. Apart from infectious myocarditis which you might notice as fatigue and reduced performance after you’ve suffered a respiratory infection, hypertrophic myocardiopathy and especially hypertrophic obstructive cardiomyopathy is often hereditary and can be mortal without showing prior symptoms. That’s why after a patient’s death you usually…

I'm adopted. Can I find out if I'm at risk from a DNA mapping service like 23andme?

Prevalence is 200 per 100k so you’re almost certainly not affected. If you want to be sure a routine ECG and a trans thoracic ultrasound usually is sufficient to diagnose / exclude cardiac myopathy. 23andme doesn’t even look at the whole genome, they just look for common disease associated polymorphisms. No way of telling if you have a mutation that’s not in their database and even if you have a mutation it could be deactivated epigenetically or other factors could lead to you not suffering the disease.

Re: A singer apologized, closed his eyes, dropped his head and died onstage

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Post by tetris11 »

pansa wrote: post #15
monksy wrote: post #13

A British comedian did this as well.. The audience thought it was apart of the act and didn't respond for 5 minutes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Cognito Also apparently this is a thing that happens: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_entertainers_who_died_...

I was sure your link to a British comedian was going to be: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Cooper

Link for the morbidly curious: https://youtu.be/HpZq3ul1ld4

Cracking jokes one second, and then quietly down the next.

Re: A singer apologized, closed his eyes, dropped his head and died onstage

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Post by IfOnlyYouKnew »

monksy wrote: post #13

A British comedian did this as well.. The audience thought it was apart of the act and didn't respond for 5 minutes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Cognito Also apparently this is a thing that happens: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_entertainers_who_died_...

I saw john Malkovich in a play once, that involved a moment where the curtain closed halfway, lights turned on, and paramedics came onstage.

This was in Germany and they were wearing local uniforms. That made it seem rather authentic.

I remember being somewhat certain that it was an act, and there were no indication from the audience that anybody fell for it (panic, leaving, yelling "I'm a doctor").

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Post by tonyedgecombe »

WalterBright wrote: post #90
Gibbon1 wrote: post #41

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I think some people are born with heart defects that can result in sudden cardiac death as a young adult. Also strokes. In half a century I doesn't know of any friends or friends that had that happen. But then again I know of three people that died when the car they were working on fell off the jack.

> But then again I know of three people that died when the car they were working on fell off the jack. Yikes. I had my car fall off once when I was standing next to it getting ready to go under. Now I put two sets of jackstands under it, and give the car a hard shake first.

I've had it happen twice, once with a trolley jack and once with the car jack. In both cases the ground was a softer than I realised. There is no way I would crawl under without axle stands.

Re: A singer apologized, closed his eyes, dropped his head and died onstage

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Post by IfOnlyYouKnew »

echelon wrote: post #32
fernly wrote: post #12

Dubious about the "heart attack" diagnosis, at least as the phrase is usually understood. More likely "Sudden Cardiac Arrest"[1]: "In over half of the cases, however, sudden cardiac arrest occurs without prior symptoms." Like, the pump just stops. You'd feel faint and then be unconscious. [1] https://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/guide/sudden-cardiac-dea...

Does this happen in young, healthy individuals? I was reading the Wikipedia article linked in another thread [1], and several of the "sudden" deaths were people in their 40s that appear to have been healthy. Do you feel symptoms, eg. during exercise, that you should listen to so as to inform you to stop whatever activity you're doing? Feeling light-headed, short of breath, blurry vision, etc.? I run and also perform…

Had it happen to a classmate in school.

I seem to remember it's either second or third most common cause of death in young people (in rich countries), usually behind traffic accidents.

But that has to be considered together with the fact that, generally speaking, young people just don't die.

Oh, and to fuel your paranoia: had a friend die in Moscow from a stroke. Death could have easily been prevented, if they had called paramedics and not the police, who thought he had taken drugs and just locked him in a cell where he died 8 hours later.

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